Anyone fitted a Barrymatic Jamb Door Closer?

Looked at the Perkomatic closer but they need to be 750mm from the floor, the door style would not allow this as lock rail is much higher than this.
http://www.new-star.co.uk/our-produ...-adjustable-speed-hydraulic-jamb-door-closer/





Looking to fit one of these in a Victorian style fire door, wanted something that was hidden an not look too commercial so overhead closers were out.

this is the door it will be fitted on, middle hinge was position away from the lock rail in anticipation of fitting the closer. Checked with manufacture who say it should be sited below the middle hinge and within 300mm.

 

Don't want to wreck this up as door alone cost £468!

 

The deep part goes into the door, the depth of the whole unit is 170mm deep.

The middle hinge was centered between the top and bottom hinge.

 

I've emailed the company to check the fitting instructs.

the instructions mention that a distance of 44mm should not be exceeded taken from center of closer.



This is the door with it open to nearly 180 degrees, there is a distance of15-16mm from door edge to frame. If I fit in accordance with the instructions would mean that the closer would be 2mm away from the door. (closer is 25.6mm wide).

 

Went into the ironmongery store today, and the guy showed me a cam closer, its still overhead. Looks a lot sleeker then the arm version.

Think i may go with this, it can be speced to on the pull or pull side.

the track arm fits on the door lining, which would mean the architrave will need cutting out to accept it.

Worried I could weaken the door if I went with the concealed closer and not sure on its reliability.

This is the door fitted now. Was a nightmare today went to put it on then was a lot of trouble closing it again. Had to plan of a a bit on the lock side. Still feel some reissiatnce when pushing it with the brush seals but think as they are new should wear in?

I think having a 5 degree angle on the leading edge helped it otherwise it hits the seal and restricts closing properly.

Other doors around the house have moved so had to adjust another today.



This is the one they showed me in the shop today. A bit easier to push as it complies with part M.

 

you are right, the barrymatics only allow opening to 120 degrees, if they are opened further then it invalidates the guarantee.

 

I havn't heard anything back from them.

I think I will leave the concealed closer worried also I may weaken the door, especially because of the design.

I've ordered a pull side cam closer instead.

https://www.aldridgesecurity.co.uk/...-action-slide-track-overhead-door-closer.aspx

 

I've fitted the cam closer, will see If I can get a photo as will be visiting the house tommorw.

 

This is the door closer I fitted last week.

Template was provided in the box, but unable to see through and mark.

Messed up first time, as needed to provide clearance other side door wouldn't open and hit arm



Need to make sure that close and track is level and parallel.




Will be fitting architrave later on, which need notching out.

Door seems to close ok, just needs some wearing in on the intrumescent brush strips.