Bathroom Puzzle

Discussion in 'Plumbers' Talk' started by zipdip, Sep 27, 2016.

  1. zipdip

    zipdip Member

    Hi all
    will be moving into a bungalow at the weekend,it has a separate loo and bathroom,looking at the loo the toilet waste just goes straight into the floor,next door in the bathroom in the corner with the loo on the other side of the wall is a vent stack which goes through the roof,but nothing seems to enter it not the loo which is next door or the waste from the bath or sink which exit through the outside wall and empty into a drain,can I knock down the wall and join the loo to that vent stack,if I can do that I suppose I would have to cut and insert a fitting to take the loo waste pipe.
     
  2. joinerjohn1

    joinerjohn1 Screwfix Select

    I'd think if it's got a vent stack then the toilet is (obviously) connected into it under the floor at some point. Dunno about taking the wall down, You'd have to check if it's actually supporting anything above it, or is acting as a brace for another internal wall ??
     
  3. Pink Panther

    Pink Panther Member

    If your loo waste goes straight in to the floor, then it is surely as joinerjohn1 says - it connects into that vent pipe underground, almost certainly as it then bends away to run under your garden or path (any idea what route your soil pipe takes to join the 'main' sewer out on the road?)

    So, almost certainly - as far as the plumbing is concerned - you can take down that wall, seal off the hole in the floor where the loo currently flows in to, and connect a new pan sideways into that stack.

    Ensure that the waste pipe that joins the new pan to the stack falls downwards at the required slope - consider new floor heights and the height of the pan outlet - fairly standard these days.

    And the vent pipe connector will be a swept 'Tee'.

    What is the vent pipe made from - plastic or cast iron?

    (But don't take down walls until you are certain they are not load-bearing. This one most likely isn't, but it could be :))
     
  4. sospan

    sospan Screwfix Select

    Before doing any thing, I would test your assumptions on the "vent" pipe. I would get up near the stack on the roof and remove the cap from the vent pipe. Get someone to flush the toilet - you should feel the air move in or out of the top pipe with the flow of the toilet. If it is difficult to feel you could try some cling film or similar over the top.

    The other thing is to test it, you need to find and lift the man hole cover, then put a little water (coloured squash is good) down the vent pipe and see if it comes out in the man hole.

    Never be fooled by the presence of a pipe, several years ago I connected a toilet to a pipe on a new build, only to be called back a week later because the toilet was blocked. It turned out that the pipe I had used was an old one uncovered by excavations and they had accidentally buried the correct one !
     
  5. Never be fooled by the presence of a pipe, several years ago I connected a toilet to a pipe on a new build, only to be called back a week later because the toilet was blocked. It turned out that the pipe I had used was an old one uncovered by excavations and they had accidentally buried the correct one !
    Lol! What are the chances!
     
  6. sospan

    sospan Screwfix Select

    It took us an entire week to find, we rodded from both ends and found an obstruction right on the boundary. Digger came in and dug down 5 meters and then realised that they had lowered the road 20 years previously and had to redirect the pipework ! but to where. We then had to track down a previous owner who told us where we were looking in the wrong man hole ! He told us where the correct man hole was and then sent a jetting tool down the pipe - it was like striking oil, a huge plume of mud and water came out of a spoil heap.
     
  7. zipdip

    zipdip Member

    Thanks for all your replies sorry for the late post all down to TalkTalk cutting my broadband,so it is ok to use the vent pipe,the wall is not load bearing,all the foul water goes down that side of the bungalow,the surface water goes to soak away's,allowed because where i live we get just 20 inches of rain a year,the sole reason for moving the loo is I hate washing and shaving looking at a window,so need to mover the basin,will not do this for a few weeks as new Baxi boiler going into airing cupboard first time I have had a combi performing as a combi,last one was a system boiler,one advantage is the washing machine can take the place of the hotwater tank as the bathroom backs onto the airing cupboard so waste of combi and washing machine can use the bath waste,thanks for all your help.
     
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