Baxi Bermuda + hot water cylinder Economical?

Walt - I agree with a lot you say, but my gawd you are becoming really thingy.

I disagree with your advice on swapping the Bermuda, tho', unless it happens that Miss Julie has money to burn. It will take her about 10 years to recoup the outlay.

 

och, he's only having a bit o fun till they catch him up, If you dissapear without trace Walt, have a nice Christmas and new year,

 

Go for the Intergas. The combi only has 4 moving parts. The next size up, the 36/30, will give better hot water flow rates when filling a bath. The Intergas combi comes with an integral weather compensator. Have the outside temperature sensor fitted. This will reduce gas usage and give excellent comfort conditions. Make sure you get rid of the electric shower (they are made by Satan himself).

 

Miss Julie, would be well advised to keep the electric shower though Walt. In the event of a boiler breakdown she'll still be able to have a shower. (or is personal hygiene , not a high priority for you??)

 

You must have Satanic ways. For the likelihood of a breakdown every 10 years, it is not worth keeping the electric shower. You have to run around them to get wet.

 

Miss Julie and Walt back at the same time -I wonder where they've been...?

Cough. Sorry.

Miss J, I cannot comment on the Intergas, although what I've read about them is pretty nifty, and I really like the 'few moving parts' bit. Vaillant is the more well-known of the 'good' brands, but - personally - I think I'd take a punt on the Intergas.

How do the prices compare?

In either event, I agree with Walt - go for the more powerful combi so it'll deliver LOTS of hot water when you need it - really worth having that extra oomph (and your boiler will automatically deliver less when that's all you want). Your installer will check that your incoming mains water flow is up to it in the first place.

When you finally switch to the thermostatic shower driven off the combi, you won't believe the difference - a really superb shower. What JJ says is true - if your boiler breaks down you won't have a hot shower, BUT this will only happen on rare occasions if at all, and it isn't worth keeping a pitiful electric shower just for that possibility.

Leccy showers are awful...

 

The Intergas is very reliable indeed. The installer does not know what he is talking about regarding weather compensation. It keeps the temperature low so it is condensing longer and deeper reducing gas consumption. It is also a feed-forward controller, which I am sure he does not know anything about. It comes with the boiler. All it needs is the outside sensor purchased and fitted. Simple. Not fit it is irresponsible. There is a jig that the boiler hooks onto. This has the pressure vessel inside. The pipes can also be run in the space it creates behind the boiler. Have it fitted in your loft, out of the way, then pipe runs do not matter.

Plumb Center, a national chain, now sell Intergas boilers. They also deal with the parts.

 

Ohhhh!!! I just remembered why I left.

 

I have a Mira Advance (Mk2) leccy shower and there's nowt wrong with it, DA, supplies plenty of hot water. Never broke down either.

 

Welcome back PB, Tomp'll be very happy now yer back.

 

JJ, if you like running around on the spot whilst a Mira spits at you, then fine.

Personally, I'd rather a shower.

Miss Julie, it's a shame your Intergas installer sounds less than totally clued up. No, we don't have the extremes of weather that they have in Scandie, but at the moment it's well below freeze and us Brits will keep the heating on until the ootside temp is well into the mid-teens. So, a goodly 20+oC spread. Nuts not to have the weather compensator. (I don;t have one, but I manually adjust the CH temp instead... )

The guy's an a***.

Check out what Walt says about the pipe runs - can they be hidden?

Your call - play 'safe' with the known brand that everyone sticks in, or take the plunge...

I'd go Intergas next time, I'm pretty sure.