CPC carrying live current, electrician says it is OK?

Discussion in 'Electricians' Talk' started by M3dic, Feb 8, 2016.

  1. madhatter1uk

    madhatter1uk Screwfix Select

    No earth sleeve is c3. Hold on I'll have a look in my book 514.1.2 514.4.4
     
    Last edited: Feb 11, 2016
  2. I still hope M3 comes back and tells us the outcome.

    Wouldn't blame him if he's too scared to :oops:
     
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  3. Coloumb

    Coloumb Screwfix Select

    514.6.1 (iii) refers I guess. SO yes, sleeving is required in accessories but there are exceptions.
     
  4. madhatter1uk

    madhatter1uk Screwfix Select

    It's not something I'd class as vitally important in the grand scheme of things it's only really an identifier to point out what everyone already knows.
     
  5. unphased

    unphased Screwfix Select

    Coloumb you are correct my friend, no need for the doubt in your closing sentence and nobody is disagreeing with you. Sleeving is not insulation it is an identifier.
     
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  6. Coloumb

    Coloumb Screwfix Select

    Ah yes, now I remember! Thanks
     
  7. retiredsparks

    retiredsparks Super Member

    ...and now for something completely different....

    RS
     
  8. Mr. Handyandy

    Mr. Handyandy Screwfix Select


    But it is instructed that sleeving should completely cover exposed wires and that no bare wire is visible! Therefore, it acts as insulation. (In the case of bare earth wire)

    Mr. HandyAndy - Really
     
  9. Coloumb

    Coloumb Screwfix Select

    Simply not the case old fruit. If it were then there would be no such things as exposed or extraneous parts.
     
  10. Mr. Handyandy

    Mr. Handyandy Screwfix Select


    'Course there would. Screws, metal parts, pipes, brackets etc

    I would not consider a bare wire inside an enclosure as extraneous or exposed.

    I would consider it as uninsulated.

    Mr. HandyAndy - Really
     
  11. Coloumb

    Coloumb Screwfix Select

    Yes, so would I. Identified though.
     
  12. dale76uk

    dale76uk Member

    Really, and yet I can use paint as insulation?
     
  13. madhatter1uk

    madhatter1uk Screwfix Select

    Put some rockwool insulation on it, that'll keep it nice and warm and cosy.
     
  14. Risteard

    Risteard Screwfix Select

    What are the insulating properties of green/yellow sleeving (or any other colour of sleeving)?
     
  15. retiredsparks

    retiredsparks Super Member

    Its PVC, put your IR tester on it, 25mm apart, at 1000V and find out.
    RS
     
  16. madhatter1uk

    madhatter1uk Screwfix Select

    What we need are green and yellow 3. 5 screws
     
  17. sparky Si-Fi

    sparky Si-Fi Screwfix Select

    Is this stupid self explanatory unsafe work practicing topic still going. . .?
     
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  18. Rulland

    Rulland Screwfix Select

    The 'competent ' have long since moved on.
     
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  19. madhatter1uk

    madhatter1uk Screwfix Select

    Ah thats why im still here
     
  20. unphased

    unphased Screwfix Select

    No it isn't instructed at all. Sleeving is just an identifier and doesn't have the same properties as insulation. It is too thin and doesn't grip the conductor at all. Can I ask? Why do you insist on trying to make a case for justifying bad practice?
     
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