<u>chris@vietec.com</u> - Good points buddy , I was just venting my frustration at all the sad ******* who keep this post going , hoping to draw a line under it , but as you say all I've done is keep it at the top of the list , but at least it's for a different reason than all the other people who have'nt got anything more exciting in their lives to barney about , Jeez there's some mongs about - thats my last entry on this "War & Peace" article , no doubt the real saddo's on this forum will keep it going for some time yet though !!!
- Good points buddy , I was just venting my frustration at all the sad ******* who keep this post going , hoping to draw a line under it , but as you say all I've done is keep it at the top of the list , but at least it's for a different reason than all the other people who have'nt got anything more exciting in their lives to barney about , Jeez there's some mongs about - thats my last entry on this "War & Peace" article , no doubt the real saddo's on this forum will keep it going for some time yet though !!! PMSL!!!!!!!
The thread is here, it's not going away DIY gas work is legal and here to stay The Corgis yap and want DIY away Funds are needed for their Far East holiday They pay for this by charging too much Pensioners, cripples the destitute, as such Perfectly legal boilers are ripped out with great zest As they drive home in posh cars - only the best The moral of this rip-off tale? Is Do It Yourself without avail
Could'nt agree more with PRESS , and you sir (WS), have got to be the saddest one of them all - Drivel , Enid Blyton , etc , etc , etc - says it all , you are one boring sad * , ever wonder why you are so unpopular with most people on here ??? , I'll tell you this , it's not the reasons that you think . You are trying to put yourself at the top of the ladder on this forum , competing with people who are far superior to you knowledge-wise and just trying to beat them with verbal Diah***a that you read in a book somewhere , Viva Dick , Leaky , etc , etc , etc , with a bit of luck you'll get banned from this forum soon as well for boring people to death , get a life buddy (and preferably one away from this forum)- how about studying how paint dries - should be right up your street .... [Edited by: admin]
His is YeeHaa, he rides a horse Shouting "yeehaa" till he's hoarse The name is apt, a Cowboy is he He must a member of that CORGI
Good plumbing "Design" By Walter Systems : http://tinyurl.com/39udx8 Call me pedantic if you will but shouldn't there be a bleed point somewhere on that system and how would you drain it (or fill it for that matter)?
Good plumbing "Design" By Walter Systems : http://tinyurl.com/39udx8 Call me pedantic if you will but shouldn't there be a bleed point somewhere on that system and how would you drain it (or fill it for that matter)? Are you serious?
Good plumbing "Design" By Walter Systems : http://tinyurl.com/39udx8 Call me pedantic if you will but shouldn't there be a bleed point somewhere on that system and how would you drain it (or fill it for that matter)? Appalling design. Left out the fundamentals.
Good plumbing "Design" By Walter Systems : http://tinyurl.com/39udx8 Call me pedantic if you will but shouldn't there be a bleed point somewhere on that system and how would you drain it (or fill it for that matter)? > Are you serious? Sorry mate, no of course I wasn't ferking serious, I just never learnt to do those bloody smiley faces! lol
Good plumbing "Design" By Walter Systems : http://tinyurl.com/39udx8 Call me pedantic if you will but shouldn't there be a bleed point somewhere on that system and how would you drain it (or fill it for that matter)? > Are you serious? Sorry mate, no of course I wasn't ferking serious, I just never learnt to do those bloody smiley faces! lol like that
Good plumbing "Design" By Walter Systems : http://tinyurl.com/39udx8 Oh! Is that what a heatbank looks like then?
Read through. All clear and no responses countering the law please. The law is the law. On CORGI's web site in the section on achieving ACS Accreditation. Quote: " Until 1998, gas installers could achieve certificates of competence through a number of different certification schemes - resulting in an inconsistency of standards across the UK. Those separate schemes have now been replaced by the Nationally Accredited Certification Scheme for Individual Gas Fitting Operatives (ACS). This means that all operatives are assessed within nationally agreed standards, to gain certificates that need renewal every five years. Assessments are available from some 150 centres around the UK. Each of these has been approved by one of six certification bodies accredited by the United Kingdom Accreditation Service (UKAS). All gas installation businesses and operatives must be in a 'class of persons' approved by the Health and Safety Executive. That currently means they must be registered with CORGI." This does not apply to DIY work. CORGI, as one would expect, say "could be dangerous" and "likely to be illegal". They are hardly likely to say on a public web site that it's a great idea and everyone should try. <u>CORGI did not say "DIY gas work is Illegal".</u> Here is the referring Statutory Instrument. http://www.hmso.gov.uk/si/si1998/19982451.htm The HSE is fully aware that DIY gas work happens. They've just published a complete Fundamental Review w of Gas Safety http://www.hse.gov.uk/gas/index.htm in which there is a section discussing DIY http://www.hse.gov.uk/fundgas.htm People can read it for themselves, but: DIY installation and maintenance Question 30. Should DIY work be legally prohibited, eg by restricting the sale of gas equipment to registered gas installers? Should retailers be legally required to record sales of gas equipment and pass these to a central body, perhaps CORGI? Should any central body selected for this purpose be required to arrange the inspection of gas installation work in any case where the record of sale suggests work will be carried out by an unregistered installer? Should increased publicity on the dangers of DIY gas work be given by HSE campaigns, (ii) manufacturer's warnings, (iii) other means? (HSC Discussion Document 'Gas Safety Review: option for change', DDE14a, Page 50) Recommendation 26 226. We understand concern about the possible risks posed by incompetent DIY gas work, but believe at present there is insufficient hard evidence of incidents to support the introduction of a legal ban. However, we recognise that current statistics might not tell the full story and recommend that further work be done more accurately to identify the scale of the problem, ie by refining arrangements for reporting incidents specifically to identify those related to DIY (see Recommendation 9), with a view to reviewing the legal position again (say in five years time). 227. In the meantime, we recommend that increased publicity should be given to the dangers of DIY gas work (possibly funded through industry and the Gas Safety Levy - see Recommendations 7 and 11). This should focus more on legal requirements for competence if DIY is undertaken, and penalties if these are not met. More encouragement should also be given to retailers for providing 'point of sale' information, and equipment manufacturers to include warnings with products. Analysis of responses 228. Of a total 109 responses to Q 30, 54 supported the principle of banning DIY with 35 specifically against; whereas 44 were in favour of a ban in practice with 47 against (NB some voted just for principle or practice, others for both). The similar question in the consumer document resulted in 29 favouring a ban with 31 against and 1 unclear. Replies to the public questionnaire showed 285 in favour of a ban with 54 against. The issue was also posted on a DIY Internet web site which provoked a number of responses from those practising DIY gas work; these were against more legal controls but generally supported further publicity, stressing competence requirements for DIY rather than frightening people away from doing it. Argument 232. Data currently available suggests that a number of gas incidents have occurred over recent years where DIY is directly or indirectly implicated, but, the link is not always entirely clear and in some cases it is possible for other factors to have contributed. At present we do not believe that this evidence is sufficiently strong to suggest that current legal controls (ie for competence under GSIUR regulation 3(1)) are inadequate, and an absolute ban needs to be placed on DIY. If you look at some of the rest of the report, and contributing consultants reports concerning dangers in the home in general, you will read that in the gas arena, CO poisoning is by far and away the biggest issue, and that all gas related accidents in the home are a tiny proportion of the total. Ergo, DIY gas work is not a major focus area for the HSE at present. That's pretty definitive. This statement from above says it all...if an "absolute ban needs to be placed on DIY" (as there is not one). <u>Then it is obviously legal.</u> Again..... "At present we do not believe that this evidence is sufficiently strong to suggest that current legal controls (ie for competence under GSIUR regulation 3(1)) are inadequate, and an absolute ban needs to be placed on DIY." <u>DIY GAS WORK is LEGAL</u>...... isn't WS