Does a flat concrete floor need treating with latex levelling compound?

Discussion in 'Builders' Talk' started by diymostthings, Apr 5, 2016.

  1. diymostthings

    diymostthings Well-Known Member

    We got a quote for laying new vinyl flooring in our kitchen. Because the existing (tatty) vinyl had been stuck down to the concrete floor, the salesperson told us that it would need levelling with latex compound to "neutralise" and level over the adhesive which would remain after the old vinyl had been pulled up.

    Does this seem reasonable to the experts out there? For myself I would have thougth that the old adhesive could be scraped off back to the concrete (which is dead flat). In fact I did a similar thing to my son's kitchen using a hot air fun and scraper.

    Any thoughts/advice would be much appreciated - especially if the salesperson is wrong!

    Kind regards

    diymostthings
     
  2. Phil the Paver

    Phil the Paver Screwfix Select

    Sounds like they're taking the easy option, more money, less work. :rolleyes::rolleyes:
     
  3. diymostthings

    diymostthings Well-Known Member

    Thanks for that Phil - my first thougths were along those lines. Also the plinths under the base units are quite a tight fit to the existing vinyl - so the extra thickness would mean a cutting those. Getting messy!

    diymostthings
     
  4. BMC2000

    BMC2000 Screwfix Select

    Common practice to use Latex commercially in this situation. The latex will all any imperfections to be filled which is what you want as vinyl will follow every contour and dip and high point.
     
  5. diymostthings

    diymostthings Well-Known Member

    Thanks for that BMC2000 - well I agree that vinyl does not like little lumps under it. I might have a go at removing the adhesive with the hot air gun and scraper to see if that gets every lump out. From what you say though the salesperson was not totally wrong
    thanks
    diymostthings
     
  6. KIAB

    KIAB Super Member

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  7. Ghost-1

    Ghost-1 Active Member

    It would be quicker to self level the area, and it would get rid of any imperfections.
     
  8. diymostthings

    diymostthings Well-Known Member

    Thanks KIAB - well i think my scraper is like that but with a short handle (not home at the mo). Might see how i get on at the weekend.

    diymostthings
     
  9. diymostthings

    diymostthings Well-Known Member

    Thanks Ghost-1 - yes I agree but I am not pushed for time - only money! Might see if i can get all the lumps of old adhesive out and don't mind if that's a long haul. Also as said above I am worried about losing space for the plinths - don't really want to have to cut them. However depending how i get on at the weekend i may have to get the levelling done...

    Many thanks for replying

    diymostthings
     
  10. Mr. Handyandy

    Mr. Handyandy Screwfix Select


    Try using a spade as a scraper.

    Mr. HandyAndy - Really
     
  11. tore81

    tore81 Screwfix Select

    i don't see how you are going to save money!

    Once you spend all your hard graft time scraping it all out they will prob want to latex it anyhow.

    They will have an industrial type scraper if there pros, which will get it done in half hour.

    I have tried scraping after the glue with carpets and it took ages. Not worth the ball ache. Tried water on it, all sorts, if it's anything like that.

    If I had to do it again I would use a multi tool maybe.

    My personal view is let them crack on.

    I'm not a flooring specialist but seen this latex method used many times with good results

    Only my opinion good luck.
     
  12. tore81

    tore81 Screwfix Select

    Plinths shouldn't be fitted tight so should have room to go up if need. The most ten mill
     
  13. Phil the Paver

    Phil the Paver Screwfix Select

    If the existing floor was good enough for the existing vinyl, then when cleaned up will be good enough for the new vinyl, if they are looking to over come existing glue etc with SLC, then there's a good chance the SLC will not stick to the glue etc and be more of a problem than cure.
     
  14. DaveF

    DaveF Active Member

    Well, they are saving you money. You really don't want to pay a builder to be on his hands and knees for days scraping the floor. But of course, that's something you could do yourself, so yes, why not?
     
  15. Ghost-1

    Ghost-1 Active Member

    How big an area are we talking about?
     
  16. tore81

    tore81 Screwfix Select

    I presumed a floor specialist was doing it not a builder.

    If you are scraping that glue off you will take off some concrete here and there causing dips etc. I have done it myself, so you will have to fill level those areas somehow anyway.

    The way they do this is by using latex substance, they will have a machine that will take glue off in prob half hour.

    If it's anything like the carpet glue expect to be there for awhile.

    If they are charging you a full day for this then yes do it yourself. ask them how much they are charging you.
     
  17. diymostthings

    diymostthings Well-Known Member

    unfortunately my spade has got a curved edge so only a small part of the blade ould contact the floor.

    thanks for the tip though

    diymostthings
     
  18. diymostthings

    diymostthings Well-Known Member

    Thanks for that tore - well I have got glue up before (I think it was Evil stick or similar) with a hot air gun and a lot of patience. But now I'm "getting on" I decided to get this quote which did surprise me - hence my query.

    thanks again

    diymostthings
     
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  19. diymostthings

    diymostthings Well-Known Member

    I think the best i can do now is to actually make a start with my heat gun and scraper and see how i get on. Your comments are very much appreciated.

    diymostthings
     
  20. diymostthings

    diymostthings Well-Known Member

    About 5.7 square meters
     

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