Door hanging courses

good place to start https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=hanging+doors

 

Youtube and practice is a good place to learn. Then have a go at cutting in hinges and locks on scrap wood.

 

The above Link is perfect for you mate! Just watch a few videos and off you go. You would be getting the same value in such course as you would get in wallpaper hanging course ( that is if someone even offers such ''course'').
Practice your chisel skills on a scrap piece of timber and that's all there is to it.

 

Lots of 3rd party education providers run short intense 5 day carpentry courses which include door hanging, 2nd fix stuff etc. One by me that does a 5 day course for £350. Not advocating that it is in anyway a shortcut to learning a trade...but for some may give you a start and some confidence.

The other thing is to practice at home.

Chopping hinges in can be practiced on scrap wood, as can latches etc.

 

That's how I learnt, old joiner gave me a length of 3x2 & I spent the morning chopping in hinges along the length, when I got to the end turn wood around & chop in hinges on other edge, when finished, turn over & repeat.
And it was the same for latches.

 

Sharp chisels or a 1/4" router, electric plane or a rail saw, a drill and some flat bits.

 

Nice memory Kiab...thanks for sharing

 

Could you imagine kids today doing that.

 

Sadly no, but that old joiner taught me a lot & quite a few tips, was better than any training you get in a college today.

 

I started my working life as a mechanic , during my lunch break the oldest mechanic would show and allow me to assist him in rebuilding a Jag V12 engine. I enjoyed that so much more than changing tyre on a manual changer, breaking the beads by hand or changing engine oil all day.

 

Unfortunately, from what I've experienced with previous apprentices and other turnips, they are more likely to sever their digits than cut an accurate recess, complain that "there's machines for this sort of thing", and at least three other carpenters under 30 I've met along the way have preferred to throw away their chisels once blunt and replace, rather than sharpen. The future of British Construction........

 

A lot of carpenters under 30 haven't got a bl**dy clue how to sharp a chisel or plane iron, a while back i got talking to a young chippy I knew working a few doors down from me, was being nosey, he show me a tool he found in his old man's shed,didn't have a clue what it was, what was it, a saw set pilers, never realise you could sharpen a hand saw.

 

If they can't sharpen their own tools they aren't carpenters although I don't sharpen my own saws, hardpoint are much better.

 

You can sharpen a hand saw!


I completely agree. I used to sharpen everything on the bench grinder till you recommended the Scheppach, and that has restored life I never thought I could bring back. We live in a 'throwaway society' now and its a real shame.
I couldn't imagine how expensive it would get to purchase new chisels all the time.

I don't sharpen hand saws, but I have had 20 blades sharpened and some re-tipped for the circular saw recently. Sharpening your own tools is a basic skill IMO.

 

When I worked on the council we had an apprentice who'd never make a joiner while he had a hole in his a**e. Hid dad used to come down to the yard and look through tool catalogues for his son. Honestly he had the best of everything. His dad was looking for a set of chisels for him and chose a set that cost £60 odd for a set of four. Once he was looking to buy a block plane for him and settled on a Lie Neilsen at just over £100. He had the absolute best tool set anyone could ask for, just a pity he didn't have the brain to use them

Ahh saw sharpening, a skill that's going the way of the dinosaur these days.. I used to sharpen my own saws, but found it very time consuming. Started paying a local saw doctor to sharpen them (about £8 a pop for a normal panel saw) but like you, I now buy hardpoint saws when I need them. Circ saw blades I send off for sharpening. Don't do as much joinery now as I used to, fit the occasional kitchen. (just finishing one at the moment) as my work on the ward is quite tiring. 12.5 hr shifts taking their toll.

 

I can empathise with youngsters perhaps not having access to or owning a bench grinder, but even if they did I doubt they'd know how to use it or devote the time or inclination to furthering themselves. I have pretty much given up on sourcing a decent apprentice with a good work ethic, that actually wants to learn, and is accepting of earning low wages for a while (whilst understanding why), everyone seems to think they are something they're not, trying to run before they can walk, and that they DESERVE decent money to start, whilst turning up with not even a pencil to begin with!!?

Every decent tradesman (and a few poor ones) have started off on the bottom rung of the ladder of life, but the new breed of 16+ I'm seeing seem to think they can bypass the crucial learning steps. It is quite depressing really, especially when some of the 'success stories' end up being site managers at the age of twenty four, with absolutely minimal working experience whatsoever, telling blokes of 30+ years how to do their job!?

Man, I sound really jaded......

 

TBH, I thought the initial post was a wind up.

Someone who works using basic carpentry skills, wants to know how to hang doors. Either to lazy or stupid enough to go and work it out or even try it for themselves ?

 

Was taught by old joiner to sharpen my saws years ago,but I use hard point now, have a local firm who sharpen my circular saw blades.

http://www.sharpening-service.co.uk/

 

I understand your comment, and your point of view about apprentices and the reason for low pay to begin with.

But you also have to look at the other side of it too. Too many places use apprentices as cheap labour, not as future tradespeople. And they also have to live, and minimum wage is low enough, apprentice money can be impossible for many. Can't even rent a flat on it, let alone heat it, buy food, transport, tools, look for girlfriends etc.

Even retail and warehousing pays better. So most with half a brain run away from the poor pay and get trapped in the society we have, and are developing.

It's a pity, because those with the potential are being held away from trades and it's often those that can't get any other work that then look to get apprenticed. Looking longer term, is there much demand for specialist skills, as opposed to general skills? There will always be some specialists needed, but the demand is going downhill. Whilst we live in a throw it away society it lessens the needs for such skills.

Pity