Drilling Load Bearing Wall

Discussion in 'Electricians' Talk' started by Kevee, Jan 3, 2017.

  1. Kevee

    Kevee Member

    Hi,

    I am looking to drill through the back wall of the house (load bearing) to run cables from the dining room to the conservatory. So far I have a 300mm long drill bit and it has not broken through.

    Looking at the void where I am trying to drill into (the waste pipe runs down here from the 1st floor) there is a mix of standard bricks and what looks like red grooved tiles?

    Will I be able to drill through this or is it going to affect the structure of the wall?

    Thanks,

    Kevin
     
  2. Assuming you are drilling a wee hole - 15mm diameterish - then no structural issue whatsoever. You ain't drilling through a lintel or nuffink? Chust the wall?

    If by 'load bearing' you mean a normal external wall, then you can make 100mm holes through there for things like vent and flue pipes with no issue. But obviously make the holes as small as you can...

    Probably worth sleeving the hole to protect the cable especially since it's a mix of sharpish bits.
     
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  3. seneca

    seneca Screwfix Select

    You haven't stated the size of hole you want to drill but if it's just for running cables i'd hardly think it will be big enough to compromise the structure of the wall.
     
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  4. Phew - always worried when Sen replies as he usually drills holes in my replies... :oops:
     
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  5. KIAB

    KIAB Super Member

    Might even need a 400mm long bit.

    And drilling from one side of a wall, you might not end up in the same spot other side.:oops:

    Double check your measurments.:rolleyes:
     
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  6. seneca

    seneca Screwfix Select

    Sorry DA, not intentional!
     
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  7. I need peeps to keep me in line... :(
     
  8. Kevee

    Kevee Member

    Thanks for the replies and advice. It is a 10mm diameter hole just big enough for twin & earth cable to be pushed through. The 300mm bit has not been long enough so may go up to 400mm length and possibly 12mm for the cable sleeving.
     
  9. Pollowick

    Pollowick Screwfix Select


    A 300mm long bit will be too short - once inserted there is only 270-280mm remaining and with a standard wall of 300-310mm there is significant shortfall.

    2.5T&E will only just scrape though a 10mm hole and once you are through the first skin you will need a lot of luck to hit the hole in the second skin.

    I would suggest going to 15mm diameter, that way you can use some plastic water pipe as the sleeve (or even Copper if you clean up the ends), just check first although 2.5 T&E normally fits.
     
  10. koolpc

    koolpc Super Member

    Very true!! :p
     
  11. unphased

    unphased Screwfix Select

    You will find a 10mm hole gets your tongue licking around the lips to get the cable through.
     
  12. Dr Bodgit

    Dr Bodgit Super Member

    I've got a long 16mm drill bit for such purposes, always good to have one that's a little wider than absolutely necessary.
     
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  13. Risteard

    Risteard Screwfix Select

    I never knew that plumbing pipe was designed as an electrical conduit and complied with the appropriate standards.
     
  14. tina lucinda lane

    tina lucinda lane Screwfix Select

    that standard overflow pipe (the white **** they use on boliers) is excatly the same as 20mm conduit just its graded sutaible for water
     
  15. seneca

    seneca Screwfix Select

    It is a slightly larger diameter though, as I found out a few weeks ago when I was working a long way from home and picked some up from a local diy store. It was in the same rack as the conduit so I don't know for sure whether I picked the wrong one or it had been placed in the wrong rack but I did have to spend a few minutes with the small angle grinder to reduce the ends to get them into the adapters!
     
  16. tina lucinda lane

    tina lucinda lane Screwfix Select

    depends on the grade tho (as 20mm plastic conduit comes in two thickness doesnt it?)
     
  17. seneca

    seneca Screwfix Select

    Yes I think there's a so called heavy duty version but i'd have thought the o/d would be the same.
     
  18. Lectrician

    Lectrician Screwfix Select

    I would go with a typical 450mm 16mm drill bit for a standard construction wall. No sleeve required.
     
  19. tina lucinda lane

    tina lucinda lane Screwfix Select

    but yea it maybe thicker last lot i used was a cheap job lot (as was told plastic wasnt up to spec and could crack when used with the plastic cement) least thats why the guy said it was soo cheap i didnt care wasnt planing on using plastic cement any where near it)
     
  20. Just interested, so maybe a stupid question.

    Does electrical cable need to be run into conduit if it goes through a wall?

    Im asking because I know some in my house that is just threaded through a hole in the brickwork
     

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