Electric meter lifespan

Discussion in 'Electricians' Talk' started by candoabitofmoststuff, Aug 14, 2014.

  1. candoabitofmoststuff

    candoabitofmoststuff Screwfix Select

    Folks,

    I've had a phone call from an agent acting on behalf of my enegry company, (OVO), saying that my meter is due for renewal.

    Now I don't fundamentally have an issue with a meter being changed, but they told me that I don't have to have a smart meter, though I can, but that it does need changing, and must be done by 2020.

    The exisiting meter was installed in 1999, by the electricity company, when some other work was being done about the house.

    It's a Siemans one, with digital readout, and even has a user cutout so the CU can be changed easily if required.

    My question is, can this really be due for renewal after this relatively short time, (I though 25-30 years was a more appropriate lifespan), or is the company just trying to get some work for themselves?

    Thanks in advance.

    Cando.
     
  2. T J Anderson

    T J Anderson New Member

    Round here, there are old analogue 40A Landis Gyr meters still in service from the 1950's. However it is not your equipment, it is the Electricity Suppliers equipment and they can replace as they see fit.
     
  3. Jitender

    Jitender Screwfix Select

    Yep just make sure you take a picture of the old meter readings before they change over the meter. We had an analogue changed over to a numbered (not digital) meter - much easier to read. They somehow took down the wrong reading and a few weeks we were sent a electricity bill for over £5000.... a lot of ringing around, they soon accepted their mistake.

    It would also be a good opportunity to check your meter tails, most fitters won't change them - but can be persuaded to upgrade to 25mm tails ;)
     
  4. FatHands

    FatHands Well-Known Member

    It's surprising (at least down here anyway!) the amount of meter heads that won't physically take 25mm tails. To be honest, most encountered in this way always have a 60 amp cut-out so 16mm are fine. :)
     
  5. sinewave

    sinewave Screwfix Select

    Meters have always had a specified 'in service life' dictated by the original Electricity Supply Meter Act or SMA (Statutory Metering Act) I think.

    This was 10 years for Two Rate Meters (E7 White Meter etc) and 20 years for single rate meters.

    When electronic Meters came out like Card Meters and Radio Telemeters these meters had to be changed at 10 years also.

    Since 2006 ESMA has now stood for Europeon Smart Metering Alliance
     
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  6. JP.

    JP. Screwfix Select

    Exactly Fats - I wonder what the DNO think of 25mm meter tails in an average dom situation..and exactly when are they really indicated? :D
     
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  7. Lectrician

    Lectrician Screwfix Select

    My DNO will never fit larger than an 80amp fuse on a standard service. 16mm tails are the norm for us and them.

    If your service arrangement requires 100amp fuses, they use a larger head, before hitting the CT metering.

    This is a WPD 100amp service (69kVA). Anything larger is then CT.

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    And out of interest, the service cable feeding this is a SPLIT concentric type, providing a TN-S supply.

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  8. stu1312

    stu1312 Member

    Sorry lec I have to disagree I've worked on metering installations for the past 15 years and I'm based in the WPD area and they like the vast majority of DNOs do fit 100amp fuses into a standard 100amp head the above is very much a rarity on the majority of whole current installations, some are fitting the larger 200amp head in industrial and commercial sites as it allows an easy change to a CT supply.
     
  9. Lectrician

    Lectrician Screwfix Select

    Don't agree. Certainly not may area. Perhaps you are in one the newly aquired areas?
     
  10. Lectrician

    Lectrician Screwfix Select

    My area also no longer fit split CT installs with a separate LUCY head and CT sat on top. They are the combined ryefield chambers.

    I have dealt with WPD on provisioning and upgrades of supplies for just over 15 years.

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  11. stu1312

    stu1312 Member

    Lec I totally agree on the CT units, they're very nice to deal with. I can't remember the last time I worked on one of the larger heads like you posted for whole current and they were all existing I've never seen one installed on a new supply always a Henley series 7 or 8 unless it's had a 200amp head in.

    I'm based in devon but cover anywhere in the south of England, I do enjoy working with WPD rather than some of the other DNOs they still seem to do a good job.
     
  12. candoabitofmoststuff

    candoabitofmoststuff Screwfix Select

    Thanks folks...
    So at 15 years old it isn't likely to actually NEED replacing.
    Since my original post however I've had an email from the actual supplier, so my original suspicions are actually allayed somewhat!
    Thanks all.
    Regards,
    Can.
     

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