End of the Euro?

Discussion in 'Just Talk' started by Ryluer, Jun 29, 2015.

  1. malkie129

    malkie129 Screwfix Select

    Phil, we ain't at the table because we ain't in the €uro....Ttf probably, but with regard to policy, we have the same input at Brussels as any other policy.
     
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  2. malkie129

    malkie129 Screwfix Select

    correction: any other member state. :(
     
  3. PaulBlackpool

    PaulBlackpool Screwfix Select

    You may well be right but I hope you are not. WW1 was I understand caused by the heads of Europe wanting a fight. The British King, The German Kaiser and the Russian Czar were all related. The murder of Archduke Ferdinand at Sarajevo was just the trigger. WW2 was really a continuation of WW1 with the destitution of the German people being exploited by Hitler in the name of so called national socialism. The vast majority of the present German people were born after 1945 and can have no culpability for the war. I have been to Germany and understand that some are embarrassed by mention of WW2 and are shocked by their history. They only want to look to the future and not dwell on the past like we do.
    Maybe that is the secret of their success.
     
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  4. Now that is one deeply cynical interpretation, Phil :(.

    If you don't think we're getting on, then fine. Personally I think we're all doing chust great; I love our fellow Europeans (mostly...)

    And we are being dictated to by Germany? Hmm, not exactly dictated to, but - let's face it - they've got it sussed, and we shouldn't be so churlish as to not acknowledge this.

    But, wait, guess what? Britain is bludy great, you know - it is recognised as being one of the very best examples of democracy, decency, behaviour, fairness and lots of other good stuff.

    Please don't keep going the blinkered "we used to be great...now they're all pooing on us...we don't have a say any more...they tell us what to do...they wanna take oor pound and our sovereignty..." pathetic, self-pitying bar locks.
     
  5. parahandy

    parahandy Screwfix Select

    There is no real secret to Germany's economic success. It's because they work harder and make sh!t that works.

    In the 70's when the British car industry wasn't on strike, we turned out cars that were corroding before they left the factory.

    The germans on the other hand turned up for work and built things that would actually start in the morning.

    Their economic superiority is not really that surprising.
     
  6. PaulBlackpool

    PaulBlackpool Screwfix Select

    DA . How far would you go with this friendly federalism or are you just living up to your name?:)
    Britain to adopt Euro?:(
    European Army?:(
    Unlimited immigration from Eastern European Member States:( ( on no ! we have that already!)
    Or is this discussion getting too serious:)
    It is a beautiful day outside and I have to build a couple of vary small dwarf walls for our front porch before the double glazers come on Monday.:)
     
  7. PaulBlackpool

    PaulBlackpool Screwfix Select

    Agree but the early BMW's were rust buckets.
     
  8. PaulBlackpool

    PaulBlackpool Screwfix Select

  9. parahandy

    parahandy Screwfix Select


    Reliable rust buckets none the less.

    Anyone remember the great technological innovation that was quartic steering?

    British Leyland used this as a unique selling point for the Alegro at one stage

    Sounded all fancy and that but it was actually just a square steering wheel o_O
    [​IMG]

    Outstanding.
     
  10. To this day I think the Allegro Estate is a very handsome car :)
     
  11. Paul, I don't know whether to say a couple of nasty words beginning with eff, or just cry into my non-existent beer as your cavalier picking of barlocks from t'net.

    C'mon, man - that's the sort of thing Farage or Ry or some other imbecile does.

    One twit wants to ban photos being taken? So what - they are a loon. And it'll never happen. Because we are a democracy. And generally pretty sensible.

    So stop it (shakes head sadly...)
     
  12. Adopt the Euro? I wouldn't personally have minded, as I hate the 'they're taking our sovereignty!' jingoism that drives most of the argument. I'm all for closer ties - that's what the world should be doing. (But I have to 'fess that - following the recession - I'm glad we didn't :oops:)

    European Army? Yes. Absolutely.

    Unlimited Immigration? That's a loaded question, because we either allow unlimited, two-way movement across borders or we don't. What's good for the goose and all that... BUT, I agree that a balance needs to be set so that it doesn't become 'benefit immigration' - but that happens very much less than any Faragite would admit. Most of the lazy good-for-nothing benefit wasters are us Brits, sadly.

    Enjoy your dwarves :)
     
  13. parahandy

    parahandy Screwfix Select

    A bit erm.. Soviet looking for me.

    I remember my old man bought one of these van den plas things. I think it was the BL version of the 'Ghia'. Velour upholstery, carpets, Cig lighter, the works ;)

    Anyway he picked it, all chuffed like and up brought it home to discover every door had bubbling rust along the bottom. Then the radio went on fire.

    What a pile of steaming chuff truffle that was.

    Looked nice apart from the rising damp though.

    [​IMG]
     
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  14. PaulBlackpool

    PaulBlackpool Screwfix Select

    It was from an email I received not just random from the net although this is irrelevant.
    If it happens nobody in the UK will take any notice but photography has been banned on some railway stations in the name of anti-terrorism. If you take a photo with passers by in it I think you are supposed to ask their permission, similar to faces being obscured on TV. The state is balancing on a tightrope between tying to protect us from terrorists and children from paedophiles whilst maintaining personal freedoms or I hope it is.
     
  15. joinerjohn1

    joinerjohn1 Screwfix Select

    My personal view is that it's not so much about "unifying Europe", but more about controlling Europe. (and we all know which country more than any other controls the Euro) Yep the big one in the middle that lost two world wars. Seems to me they're just trying a new tactic, in their never ending quest to rule all before them. ;););)
     
  16. joinerjohn1

    joinerjohn1 Screwfix Select

    Ahh yes,, fairness. I'm sure we could learn valuable lessons from the Germans, like,,,, "Need cheap labour? Why not invite Turkish workers to your country. Don't worry though, when you've had enough of them, just deport them back to where they came from. Even if they have children born and raised in Germany, just introduce a law denying these kids German citizenship.
    Yep DA , a valuable lesson indeed.
     
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  17. Ryluer

    Ryluer Well-Known Member

    And why has that situation arose?
    Why is it that the local town near my locality has 30,000 poles moved in?
    In Poland the benefits system just about allows a person to survive for one week on an amount that's paid out for a month.

    Ultimately it's weak liberal minded folk like your self that has created this situation by allowing the welfare state to cast its net far too wide.
    Today there's 590,000 lone parents on out of work benefits. Single mums sponging after benefits and having more kids just to raise more income on benefits.
    Dole bludgers and sickness benefit bludgers are numbered in the millions. Nearly 5 million in 2013. IDS has probably taken that figure down a bit.

    Yes its the land of milk and honey and all funded by debt.
     
  18. Ryluer

    Ryluer Well-Known Member

    Says it all you wet lilly.
    I was totally opposed to the adoption of the euro as a currency for the UK.
    And remain so.

    Only when we are not in the eu and all the UK's fishing waters have been restored to UK vessels only will I be happy. And the CAP abolished.
    Just hope I live long enough to see it all break up.
     
  19. CGN

    CGN Screwfix Select

    Funny :)
     
  20. parahandy

    parahandy Screwfix Select

    whilst the Cap is a not as reliable as other forms of contraception, I see no particular reason to have it abolished.
     
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