Felt flat roof replacement, building reg advice please

Discussion in 'Builders' Talk' started by Crumbs, Sep 28, 2016.

  1. Crumbs

    Crumbs Member

    hi, we are replacing our failing porch felt flat roof (over 40 years old i think)
    I was looking to do this myself but cancelled due to concerns over building regulations and decided to get someone in, it was my understanding if over 50% of the roof is being replaced then you need them.

    However after having multiple roofers over, they all shrugged it off as to not bother putting in an application or worry about them. Id rather save the coin / hassle. Roofers we had over are highly rated on mybuilder.com so we arent concerned of the workmanship

    We could of course do an application but wondered if its quite common for roofers to not enforce building regs to get involved.

    It is only a very small area 2.2m x 1.5m, appreciate the advice thanks.:rolleyes:
     
  2. sospan

    sospan Screwfix Select

    Doesn't require building regs.

    Don't put felt, get a quote for glass fiber. Looks much better and lasts a lot longer
     
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  3. benben5555

    benben5555 Member

    Correct that if you replace more than 50% you are required to upgrade to current regs. Just checking though, is the space heated? If its not got a rad then you don't have to insulate.

    Either way don't bother with an application, save yourself the money, the council will never know, or care! If you sell your house just say it was like that when you bought it.

    I'm a building surveyor by the way
     
  4. sospan

    sospan Screwfix Select

    For a porch to be exempt from Building Regulations it must be;

    • Less than 30 square metres
    • It must be separated from the habitable parts of the dwelling by external quality windows / doors.
    • Any heating or cooling systems must have independent controls / thermostat.
     
  5. KIAB

    KIAB Super Member

    Seriously consider GRP roofing,stronger than felt, last longer, available in many colours, had it done here on front bay window & shed roof about six years ago.
     
  6. sospan

    sospan Screwfix Select

    There can't be many occasions where felt outscores fiberglass on residential properties.
     
  7. KIAB

    KIAB Super Member

    Neighbour had new felt roof on garage, window cleaner placed his ladder on the roof to clean windows,the feet on ladder made a lovely gash in the felt.:)
     
  8. sospan

    sospan Screwfix Select

    And its not an easy thing to repair .....
     
  9. KIAB

    KIAB Super Member

    Insurance paid for a whole new felt roof.

    Would have been a simple repair, had it been grp.:)
    Had scaffolding on my grp roof here, not a mark, or any damage.:)
     
  10. Crumbs

    Crumbs Member

    thanks all, bit late reply... It is a habitable area / heated area. Because all roofers shrugged it off (even ones who are on the comptetant persons scheme)
    We just went without it, we went with felt. Never heard of GRP before, non of the 4 roofers suggested it either. Maybe it costs more
     
  11. KIAB

    KIAB Super Member

    Does ost a bit more, but the extra expense is outweighed by the longevity, strength,etc of the grp roofing.
    It's a continuous GRP surface, which has no joins to lift like felt to leak, it's stronger than felt & smarter appearance.

    http://www.proplasfibreglassroofing.co.uk/2015/06/10/advantages-fibreglass-roofing/

    This shows the difference better than any words.:)

    http://www.proplasfibreglassroofing...old-felt-roof-with-fibreglass-winchmore-hill/
     
  12. sospan

    sospan Screwfix Select

    And felt roofs are always marked as a question point during house sale surveys, fibre glass very easy to visually check
     
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  13. KIAB

    KIAB Super Member

    And people who see a grp roof on porch, garage, other building feel more confident buying the property, knowing there is no maintaince or cost of replacement needed to factored in replacing worn felt.
     
  14. sospan

    sospan Screwfix Select

    it is bonkers to persist with felt. Even with retail prices roofing my 4.5m x 5m bathroom roof cost just over £529 for the resin and top coat. Just the basic roofing felt (top coat and under felt) it would have come to £500 based on Wickes prices.

    The size quoted in the original post would be £160 for a 30 year life time!
     
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  15. SWBUILDERS

    SWBUILDERS Active Member

    Completely right I'm Doing a 900m/2 flat roof at the moment 4 years old and previously sarnafil, deck has completely rotted in many areas thro small leaks and poor upstanding height, the client has opted for recovering with GRP and has come out at half the cost of all modern single ply membranes such as sarnafil or armorplan and is far more robust
     
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  16. KIAB

    KIAB Super Member

    Felt for flat roofs has had it's day, has to be GRP.
     
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  17. sospan

    sospan Screwfix Select

    900 sq m, hope that isn't in one section ! I was shattered after having to do 22 sqm by myself
     
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  18. SWBUILDERS

    SWBUILDERS Active Member

    image.jpeg
    No I'm the contractor on it we have redo e the carpentry and have a local company doing the glassing lots of expansion joints needed so breaks it into around 50m/2 bays
     
  19. BMC2000

    BMC2000 Screwfix Select

    Is that a temporary roof positioned over the existing roof?
     
  20. SWBUILDERS

    SWBUILDERS Active Member

    Hi, yes it's a fully beamed scaffold with a shrink wrap full covering!!!
     

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