fitted french doors, wont shut

Discussion in 'Carpenters' Talk' started by tiler7777, Jul 22, 2015.

  1. Still waiting for photos, Tiler.

    IF the frame is plumb and IF the frame is square, then you'd be nuts to try and sort this issue by forcing the frame out of square.

    There is almost certainly a very straight-forward answer to this problem, and I don;t really want to hear you go "D'oh!".

    If this door/frame set is genuinely at fault (which I have to say I doubt), then Messrs Wickes are the peeps to sort it.
     
  2. KIAB

    KIAB Super Member

    Have you put the frame fixings in properly,if one is slightly proud, then you ain't going to shut that door.
     
  3. dwlondon

    dwlondon Active Member

    Its beginning to sound like one or both doors have been made too big for the frame. Probably by a few mm, but that's obviously too much.
     
  4. seen it all before

    seen it all before Active Member

    Sometimes things just go right and work from the beginning, other times they just don't want to play ball, it seems as though he has tried all the logical options and it's not having it. I would say it's one of them jobs where you would physically have to be on site to see it yourself and see what's happening, it's to hard to diagnose over a messaging forum.
     
  5. CGN

    CGN Screwfix Select

    Have you fitted the door yourself and does the opening have enough tolerance? You don't want to be hammering a upvc frame in, especially on doors. It's not bulging in the middle a few mills is it?
     
  6. CGN

    CGN Screwfix Select

    Also, is the glass in?
     
  7. tiler7777

    tiler7777 Member

    i have used a third spirit level the whole frame is plum.

    The left door is plum when open, but when I close the door it is not plum?

    I have done everything you asked no joy.

    I have removed several bricks around the frame in order to wedge the frame wider in the hope that the hinge will move more left allowing more space for the door to shut.

    The doors will still not shut. I am at yhe end of teather here how do I know if its a manufacturing issue?
     
  8. KIAB

    KIAB Super Member

    Measure each door diagonals as you would a door frame, will tell you it's square.

    Bottom hinge throwing door out of alignment?
     
  9. CGN

    CGN Screwfix Select

    As supplied, the doors would have been shut and mated correctly. Sight the frame up to make sure it isn't twisted.
     
  10. KIAB

    KIAB Super Member

    Very good point.
     
  11. CGN

    CGN Screwfix Select

    Also, do you remember if the doors shut before you put the glass in? You need to use packers in the correct places when you install the glass due to the sag. If not, take the glass back out and see if they close.
     
  12. Mr. Handyandy

    Mr. Handyandy Screwfix Select

    Just where are the doors too close to close?
    Top, middle or bottom? Or all?
    Is it just the closing side too high, or closing and hinge side ?
    Did you squeeze the door edges together as I suggested?
    Did you take those measurements?

    Moving the frame across will also bring the other door across too, so will make no more gap. Removing bricks? No.

    Mr. HandyAndy - Really
     
  13. tiler7777

    tiler7777 Member

    The door is jamming at the top

    So the left door is level when fully open and level at 90 degrees, when as it shuts to the frame it moves unlevel and is projecting out.

    So clearly if the frame is level and the door is level when open, its some error with the hinge?


    Also doors are upvc and came with glass in

    I will remove the frame fixing on the left side tomorrow and try and shut it but its pretty tight against the frame.

    I put a piece of timber between the doors and pushed it but all it did was crack the timber
     
    Last edited: Jul 24, 2015
  14. Mr. Handyandy

    Mr. Handyandy Screwfix Select

    The left door bottom hinge NEEDS to be adjusted right. The left door top hinge NEEDS to be adjusted left.

    Mr. HandyAndy - Really
     
  15. tiler7777

    tiler7777 Member

    hinges are as you asked, still same issue left door is not plum
     
  16. KIAB

    KIAB Super Member

    You have eliminated just about everything now, including a twisted frame & your workmanship.:D
    Has to be a fault with the hinge or where hinge fixing are in frame &/or door.
     
  17. I bet it ain't... :rolleyes:
     
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  18. KIAB

    KIAB Super Member

    What is it then!o_O

    Could it be the way he has adjusted the hinge, over adusted?
     
  19. No flippin' idea. But I fear it's gonna turn oot to be something simple.

    I mean, hinges fitted in the wrong place? Really? And surely the door and frame were supplied as one assembled unit? In which case they did fit together at some point.

    Chust saying that the chances are...
     
  20. KIAB

    KIAB Super Member

    Some screw not seated flush, so stopping door from closing, seen that one many times over the years.
     

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