I need to fix a length of old fashioned 4 by 2 to a masonry wall in order to hang a side gate. I've been told that frame fixers (like giant plastic rawlplugs) would work well but when I look them up I'm not sure what the size given refers to and what size I would need. Does the length given refer just to the plastic plug bit? If so would I need to add 50mm to this length (the thickness of the wood) in addition to having a decent amount actually in the wall (e.g. another 50mm). So I guess my question is "Would 100mm frame fixers with a no 8 screws be OK?" Thanks for any comments/advice/experience etc. diymosththings
Generally, frame fixers stay in the piece you are fixing. So 50mm in your wood, 50mm in the wall. Mr. HandyAndy - Really
These are good...don't need plugs. http://m.screwfix.com/p/easydrive-flat-countersunk-concrete-screws-7-5-x-120mm-pack-of-100/9008h
Thanks one and all - those metal screws look great but the problem is I only need 4 fixings, not 100. Thanks to Mr. Handyandy for answering my specific question!
OK Phil noted thank you-but two problems for me. 1. I only need 4 fixings (would have to buy 100 of these). 2. You need to bore a clearance hole in the wood to accept a socket spanner to tighten it - then it has to be filled etc. kind regards diymostthings
The bolt I listed can be bought individually, yes you would have to counter sink the head but as for filling it afterwards, I never have, when the gates closed you can't see them anyway and even if you can its not unsightly.
Thanks again - well I just thought of a good reason for using your bolts - I'm quite close to the edge of the masonry so the smaller the hole I have to drill the betterand I think the bolts may have less of a sideways force than frame fixers. I'll look out for a source of small quantities. kind regards diymostthings
Agreed, packs of 100s are no good for general diyers, myself included Sorry Screwfix but when I need a similar product, I've been using these, good range of sizes, all packs of 10, cheap as you like; http://www.toolstation.com/shop/Scr...ings/sd1950/Masonry+Frame+Fixing+Screw/p58193
Worth using as the frame fixers won't pull your gate post to the wall like the ones Phil or myself suggested. Guarantee FF will work loose over time.
OK - I've bought them! (0.44p each for M6 x 100 Thunderbolts). Bloke in the shop recommended them too - he said they havn't sold FF for at least 3 years! Eaasy to choose the drill size too - 6mm! That postcrete is dear though isn't it? Still - worth avoiding all the dealys with normal cement. Thanks CGN and everyone else Kind regards diymostthings