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Discussion in 'Plumbers' Talk' started by Omniscient Polymath, Jun 20, 2008.

  1. mantor

    mantor New Member

    So why would you wan't to apply an electric current to a piece of iron that is already magnetized. I mean it's already magnetized Idiot!

    This is fair comment, I meant to type you will generate a turning force, anyone intelligent who reads that post would see that.
     
  2. I and your the Einstein who thinks and I quote "well
    what about those machines that hold the scrap of the
    ground" or words to that affect.

    I believe the original post on this subject was
    getting energy for free. I cant believe you cannot
    tell the difference between electro-magnetism which
    is man made and naturally occurring magnetism which,
    is the earths magnetic field.

    *

    You know something Mantor, I give advice on here and
    take the ****, but * like you will alway's be jealous
    of folk who are more qualified. I get things wrong
    occasionally like everybody else, however your bloody
    Einstein.

    Let's not forget what the original post was about! A
    bg guy working illegally, fitting a system which, was
    not to current standards and not registering the
    install. So the old dears boiler isn't going to last
    as long and guarantee is invalid.

    If most of you think that's ok, then I suggest I know
    who the cowboy's are.

    [Edited by: admin4]

    "Two things are infinite: the universe and human stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe."
     
  3. Omniscient Polymath

    Omniscient Polymath New Member

    Mantor you are obviously squirming now and not even man enough to admit you know virtualy sod all about electricity or magnetism.

    If you want to start a debate on a new thread let's go. I'll start really easy for you, Flux density and formluas, flemings left hand rule etc.

    Then well move on to inducing electro motive forces, applications of the magnetic affects which could come in handy for you i.e solonoids, transfomers, you know things you find in boilers.

    Then we'll finnish with dc ac generators, eddy currents and inductance and things like voltages leading current and lagging.

    Once your tired wee brain has exploded, we'll have a tick test.

    Son I'm not just an electrician but an electrical engineer 'graduate', I could should I wish put engineer on the side of my van but don't. Unlike most plumbers and electricians, who seem to think because they've got a C&G in the subject or possibly a national certificate there engineers.

    Now be a good boy and shut it, because believe me, your the one starting to look the idiot.

    Most widely abused word ever engineer.
     
  4. mantor

    mantor New Member

    I maybe so but obviously infinately more intelligent
    than you. Don't talk about a subject you know nothing
    about, it's embarresing.

    > > Magnetism is a phenomena that to this day is still
    not truly understood. It is neither a source of
    energy or a force.

    It is a phenomena that we gave the word magnetism
    to in relation to it's ability to attract or
    repelling iron. In the future we may understand it
    more and even may rename it.



    Actually, I would have thought that this was embarrassing, especially for a so called spark.
     
  5. mantor

    mantor New Member

    Mantor you are obviously squirming now and not even
    man enough to admit you know virtualy sod all about
    electricity or magnetism.

    If you want to start a debate on a new thread let's
    go. I'll start really easy for you, Flux density and
    formluas, flemings left hand rule etc.

    Then well move on to inducing electro motive forces,
    applications of the magnetic affects which could come
    in handy for you i.e solonoids, transfomers, you know
    things you find in boilers.

    Then we'll finnish with dc ac generators, eddy
    currents and inductance and things like voltages
    leading current and lagging.

    Once your tired wee brain has exploded, we'll have a
    tick test.

    Son I'm not just an electrician but an electrical
    engineer 'graduate', I could should I wish put
    engineer on the side of my van but don't. Unlike most
    plumbers and electricians, who seem to think because
    they've got a C&G in the subject or possibly a
    national certificate there engineers.

    Now be a good boy and shut it, because believe me,
    your the one starting to look the idiot.
    >
    Most widely abused word ever engineer.

    In your mind perhaps, I think I'll be happy to let the forum members decide that for themselves.
     
  6. Omniscient Polymath

    Omniscient Polymath New Member

    I maybe so but obviously infinately more
    intelligent
    than you. Don't talk about a subject you know
    nothing
    about, it's embarresing.

    > > Magnetism is a phenomena that to this day is
    still
    not truly understood. It is neither a source of
    energy or a force.

    It is a phenomena that we gave the word
    magnetism
    to in relation to it's ability to attract or
    repelling iron. In the future we may understand it
    more and even may rename it.



    Actually, I would have thought that this was
    embarrassing, especially for a so called spark.

    Aw! now were trying to pick up on folks spelling. Whats wrong feeling a wee bit stupid. I don't spend half my life spell checking on something that is so unimportant as a trade forumn thread. Get it typed as quick as you can and post it. I believe I got my post accross as it was meant.

    That is, that you don't have a scobby doo about elctricity and magnetism. BUT JUST ARE NOT MAN ENOUGH TO EXCEPT YOU'VE BEEN BEAT.

    In fact you probably know **** ALL about plumbing either.
    I never ask how things work or for solutions on this site all you cc's do.
     
  7. mantor

    mantor New Member

    What's up soft *, getting a bit hot under the collar? I've long since stated that I'm not a spark, All you've ever done since you came on this forum is spout about how good you are and your "qualifications", that's why you get on my * and a lot of other people's as well. As for having a scooby doo about magnetism, who was it who had to straighten you out the other night? and how could anyone who did have a scooby doo about magnetism come out with such a load of * in the first place. I'll repeat what you wrote yet again, it's just as astonishing even now, especially coming from a legend in his own mind.

    Magnetism is a phenomena that to this day is
    still not truly understood. It is neither a source of
    energy or a force.

    It is a phenomena that we gave the word
    magnetism to in relation to it's ability to attract or
    repelling iron. In the future we may understand it
    more and even may rename it.

    [Edited by: admin4]
     
  8. Omniscient Polymath

    Omniscient Polymath New Member

    What's up soft 4rse, getting a bit hot under the
    collar? I've long since stated that I'm not a spark,
    All you've ever done since you came on this forum is
    spout about how good you are and your
    "qualifications", that's why you get on my t*t and a
    lot of other people's as well. As for having a scooby
    doo about magnetism, who was it who had to straighten
    you out the other night? and how could anyone who did
    have a scooby doo about magnetism come out with such
    a load of sh1te in the first place. I'll repeat what
    you wrote yet again, it's just as astonishing
    even now, especially coming from a legend in his own
    mind.

    Magnetism is a phenomena that to this day is
    still not truly understood. It is neither a source
    of
    energy or a force.

    It is a phenomena that we gave the word
    magnetism to in relation to it's ability to attract
    or
    repelling iron. In the future we may understand it
    more and even may rename it.

    And I stand by it. Your the * who that still thinks electro-magnetism is the same as the naturally occurring magnetic field of the earth.

    Magnetism is not a force, it is a phenomena by which a force can be applied.

    Many moons ago on this forumn, I was asked after slating a cc like you. What is it P&E, plumber or electrician. I duely explained that I had served 2 apprenticeships and had degree.

    To which, all the inadequate feeling cc's amoungst us started to come out with * like no chance and big head etc. Thing is though, I was asked and I replied.

    Mantor I think you know your out your depth, you obviously have no real accademic qualifications, so let's just agree to disagree because this post has went off on a tangent.

    [Edited by: admin4]
     
  9. Omniscient Polymath

    Omniscient Polymath New Member

    "Two things are infinite: the universe and human
    stupidity; and I'm not sure about the universe."


    Whoever you are, if your going to add to this forumn, at least add something with a little bit of substance instaed of wee one liners. However, funny some of them were in the past.
     
  10. Belfastboy

    Belfastboy New Member

    A matter close to my heart.
    I do warranty work for several large manufacturers of boilers and I go out and see genuine RGI some times have a few diffculties but nothing that can't be sorted. Then you go to other jobs and the moment you walk in the job smells like Billingsgate fish market. The product is not fitted right, gas leaks, flue flued to the inside of the building, second stage regulators left out, condensate line in copper, flues not connected, 240 volts in the 5 volt side and you pause and ask,"Was this fitted by a registered engineer?" and the answer is always yes.
    I closed and RIDDOR a job and such a row insued about how not to upset the customer the illegal gas worker and my answer was,"Well he left a gas leak that filled the empty house of a semi detached, had not read the manual and then lies to my face, if he had not wanted reported don't call out an engineer to sort the mess he made by being illegal and unqualified." He then phoned me to kick off why I had reported him and my answer was,"If you had done the job right qualified or not I would not have had anything to write about or report!"
    Every warranty call cost is built into the boiler purchase price and in times when there is less money about the manufacturers must now insist that not just the CORGI number of the company but the engineers number given before sending out to a warranty call this way isolating the illegals.
    We suggest a scheme like TV purchasing where an address has to be taken at the time of purchase of a boiler, hob, fire and this can then be tied to the notification of work and where the notification does not take place the British Insurance Companies should be notified that there risk is increased due to possible illegal work taking place that could affect there insurance. This would severely restrict the illegals and make clear the scale of illegal work.
     
  11. mantor

    mantor New Member

    Magnetism is a phenomena that to this day is
    still not truly understood. It is neither a source
    of
    energy or a force.

    It is a phenomena that we gave the word
    magnetism to in relation to it's ability to attract
    or
    repelling iron. In the future we may understand it
    more and even may rename it.

    After having stated this mumbo jumbo, plumb&elec then went on to state this even more outlandish cr*p.

    And I stand by it. Your the * who that still thinks electro-magnetism is the same as the naturally occurring magnetic field of the earth.

    Magnetism is not a force, it is a phenomena by which a force can be applied.

    Right, so magnetism is not a force then, you are going to need to explain that to all the physicists that say it is. They'll all be gutted when they realise that they have got it all so wrong all these years. There was them under the impression that the electromagnetic force was one of the four fundamental forces of nature, along with the strong nuclear force, and the weak nuclear force and gravity. They were all thinking that these four forces gave rise to all of the other forces found at work in the universe, what fools they were, they even thought that at a certain temperature (far in excess of any achievable by todays technology) they would find that all of these forces would become unified and shown to be different manifestations of the same underlying force. Some of these so called "brains" (Stephen Hawking for one)have spent their lives trying to prove this, and even have a name for it. They call it the grand unification theory, and amongst these idiots it's the holy grail, the theory of everything, that will explain just how the universe and us came into being. Why don't you tell them that magnetism isn't a force, no wonder they can't find the answer. Just tell them that they must be wrong cos you've served two apprenticeships and have all kinds of qualifications and all.

    By the way soft sh1te, electromagnetism and the magnetic field of the Earth are two manifestations of the electromagnetic force.
     
  12. Guest

    "Two things are infinite: the universe and
    human
    stupidity; and I'm not sure about the
    universe."


    Whoever you are, if your going to add to this forumn,
    at least add something with a little bit of substance
    instaed of wee one liners. However, funny some of
    them were in the past.


    It's just Mr squiggly, such a gramma queen,

    hope you haven't been rude to him.
    :)
     
  13. Omniscient Polymath

    Omniscient Polymath New Member

    Magnetism is a phenomena that to this day is
    still not truly understood. It is neither a
    source
    of
    energy or a force.

    It is a phenomena that we gave the word
    magnetism to in relation to it's ability to
    attract
    or
    repelling iron. In the future we may understand it
    more and even may rename it.

    After having stated this mumbo jumbo, plumb&elec then
    went on to state this even more outlandish cr*p.

    And I stand by it. Your the * who that still thinks
    electro-magnetism is the same as the naturally
    occurring magnetic field of the earth.

    Magnetism is not a force, it is a phenomena by
    which a force can be applied.

    Right, so magnetism is not a force then, you are
    going to need to explain that to all the physicists
    that say it is. They'll all be gutted when they
    realise that they have got it all so wrong all these
    years. There was them under the impression that the
    electromagnetic force was one of the four fundamental
    forces of nature, along with the strong nuclear
    force, and the weak nuclear force and gravity. They
    were all thinking that these four forces gave rise to
    all of the other forces found at work in the
    universe, what fools they were, they even thought
    that at a certain temperature (far in excess of any
    achievable by todays technology) they would find that
    all of these forces would become unified and shown to
    be different manifestations of the same underlying
    force. Some of these so called "brains" (Stephen
    Hawking for one)have spent their lives trying to
    prove this, and even have a name for it. They call it
    the grand unification theory, and amongst these
    idiots it's the holy grail, the theory of everything,
    that will explain just how the universe and us came
    into being. Why don't you tell them that magnetism
    isn't a force, no wonder they can't find the answer.
    Just tell them that they must be wrong cos you've
    served two apprenticeships and have all kinds of
    qualifications and all.

    By the way soft sh1te, electromagnetism and the
    magnetic field of the Earth are two manifestations of
    the electromagnetic force.

    Christ,

    I thought I was the only one who had a few sherbets at this time. Mantor you really are making a fool of yourself, however, there will be a few cc pals who will back you up! if their not in bed yet.
     
  14. devil's advocate

    devil's advocate New Member

    This is a seriously bad 'discussion'. :(
     
  15. Omniscient Polymath

    Omniscient Polymath New Member

    right mantor tell me your pal who is the physicist. Lets face it! you know **** all about anything an yet you won't let it go.

    Have actually read what you have just posted, your a loony tune. Look son get some help, because believe me you need it.
     
  16. mantor

    mantor New Member

    Well soft sh1te, I haven't served two apprenticeships, only one. Nor am I an electrician or a scientist. But even though that little lot was from off the top of my head from stuff I read years ago, I think you will find that there will be a few (like, all of them) physicists, nuclear, quantum and theoretical, who will back me up as well. You don't have to believe me, try googling it, and uncover the mysteries (to you) of magnetism. You will find that it's not so mysterious after all, and is well understood by the scientists. Incidentally, the main pioneering work on understanding and utilising the electromagnetic force was done by Sir Micheal Faraday many years ago. A true ENGLISH giant.
     
  17. mantor

    mantor New Member

    This is a seriously bad 'discussion'. :(

    Sorry Devs, I know you don't like any form of confontation whatsoever at all, at all. But don't worry, someone "nice" will be along soon enough.
     
  18. Omniscient Polymath

    Omniscient Polymath New Member

    There was them under the impression that the
    electromagnetic force was one of the four fundamental
    forces of nature,


    That was a wee toke on a joint that produced that....

    along with the strong nuclear
    force, and the weak nuclear force and gravity. They
    were all thinking that these four forces gave rise to
    all of the other forces found at work in the
    universe, what fools they were,

    well maybe your the fool, especially after a few tokes too many. Your not a treky are you?

    they even thought
    that at a certain temperature (far in excess of any
    achievable by todays technology) they would find that
    all of these forces would become unified and shown to
    be different manifestations of the same underlying
    force. Some of these so called "brains" (Stephen
    Hawking for one)have spent their lives trying to
    prove this, and even have a name for it. They call it
    the grand unification theory, and amongst these
    idiots it's the holy grail, the theory of everything,
    that will explain just how the universe and us came
    into being. Why don't you tell them that magnetism
    isn't a force, no wonder they can't find the answer.
    Just tell them that they must be wrong cos you've
    served two apprenticeships and have all kinds of
    qualifications and all.

    Very good mantor, you are officially a nutter.

    By the way soft sh1te, electromagnetism and the
    magnetic field of the Earth are two manifestations of
    the electromagnetic force.

    you like the word manifestation, is that a new word you've just learnt recently. By the way, where's your wee cc pals that normally give you dutch courage. In bed eh! Tosspots.
     
  19. mantor

    mantor New Member

    Keep on digging plum&elec, every time you post you show yourself to be even more of an idiot than I already knew that you were. I suppose tomorrow, you'll say that you were p1ssed. Anyway, off to bed now, thanks for the laughs you total ignoramus.
     
  20. Omniscient Polymath

    Omniscient Polymath New Member

    You don't
    have to believe me, try googling it, and uncover the
    mysteries (to you) of magnetism.

    So you've just admitted that you google your answers. I could have told you from the start that your a dumbo. However, son I've had an education far superior to yours, but you keep biting and making an **** of yourself.

    You will find that
    it's not so mysterious after all, and is well
    understood by the scientists. Incidentally, the main
    pioneering work on understanding and utilizing the
    electromagnetic force was done by Sir Micheal Faraday
    many years ago. A true ENGLISH giant.


    Oh were getting into who the great English scientist was, let me make another thing clear here, that per head of populous, the scots are more eminent.

    your an uneducated di**head, who is neither accademically qualified or a tradesman, so why are you on this forum waster.
     

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