Hi, I've got a gravity fed heating system and now the weather is warm we want just hot water only, however the upstairs radiators are still coming on. I've looked this up and found we need a new check valve. Can anyone give me an idea of how much I should be paying someone to come and sort it out? Thanks
Thanks v much for your response. I'm a bit of a novice to say the least!! What does that mean exactly? Do I need an alternative pump to the check valve? And will that make getting hot water quicker/better?
Get a Plumber to fit a new check valve,approx £100.00 then seek advice about converting your gravity system to one thats pumped,obviously cost a lot more to do this.HTH
Thanks v much for your response. I'm a bit of a novice to say the least!! What does that mean exactly? Do I need an alternative pump to the check valve? And will that make getting hot water quicker/better? The best way is to fit another pump on the flow or return to the cylinder and have a check valve in front of each pump. A cylinder stat and a probably a small cheap electric relay (£5 from Maplin) will need to be fitted in a plastic box adjacent. Then the programmer will need to be set to accept fully pumped and independent DHW and CH. The cylinder will reheat in a fraction of the time. Best go that route, unless you intend to replace the boiler soon.
Thanks v much for your response. I'm a bit of a novice to say the least!! What does that mean exactly? Do I need an alternative pump to the check valve? And will that make getting hot water quicker/better? The best way is to fit another pump on the flow or return to the cylinder and have a check valve in front of each pump. A cylinder stat and a probably a small cheap electric relay (£5 from Maplin) will need to be fitted in a plastic box adjacent. Then the programmer will need to be set to accept fully pumped and independent DHW and CH. The cylinder will reheat in a fraction of the time. Best go that route, unless you intend to replace the boiler soon. And where would he place the pump on the flow of the cylinder?
HB,nurmerous options here - (basic) either fit a dumb ball valve on heating flow at boiler, or a good quality gate valve on heating flow manually operated,or fit a 2port zone valve on heating flow,or add to any of the mentioned options a honeywell C plan ie- motorised valve on primary flow plus thermastat on cylinder,or convert to fully pumped honeywell S plan ie- 2 motorised valves,cylinder stat,room stat.If you are happy with system as it is apart from the thermal syphonage to upstairs rads go for 1 of the first 3 options. Don"t consider what Water Systems mentions you don"t need 2 pumps ;(
cheers for the advice guys, Lots for me to think about there! Martin - beat you to it on that one - I had managed to figure out that turning off the radiator valves is a short term solution. But with british weather being the way it is, I don't want to go round the house turning on the radiator valves everytime I want a bit of heat in the summer! Hence why I'm looking for a proper solution, but cheers anyway.
You could always fit TRV's, they are a bit easier to turn on and off and you can leave them on a low setting so they only come on when cold...or upgrade as advised.
HB, Is it gravity fed in the term of F&E tank in the the attic meaning vented system or gravity circulation..F*ck me it must be old. By the way, do not under any circumstance take advice from WS, as you can see most guy's on here will give a practical cheap solution to your problem. Althoug, are a bit vague on sytem type. Where as WS is talking about relays from maplin..F*ck me what a tool. Just proves he's literature spouting tube with no practical nouse at all. Relay's are generally only used to switch high loads from a small control voltage or by placing an earth on the relay as in aircraft cockpit switching. I would suggest not standard in many home heating installations.
Thanks v much for your response. I'm a bit of a novice to say the least!! What does that mean exactly? Do I need an alternative pump to the check valve? And will that make getting hot water quicker/better? The best way is to fit another pump on the flow or return to the cylinder and have a check valve in front of each pump. A cylinder stat and a probably a small cheap electric relay (£5 from Maplin) will need to be fitted in a plastic box adjacent. Then the programmer will need to be set to accept fully pumped and independent DHW and CH. The cylinder will reheat in a fraction of the time. Best go that route, unless you intend to replace the boiler soon. And where would he place the pump on the flow of the cylinder? Do you know? Or don't you know?
Where as WS is talking about relays from maplin..F*ck me what a tool. Just proves he's literature spouting tube with no practical nouse at all. Relay's are generally only used to switch high loads from a small control voltage or by placing an earth on the relay as in aircraft cockpit switching. I would suggest not standard in many home heating installations. Drayton used to market the RB1 and RB2 which were single and double relays respectively. They were used to switch boilers, valves and pumps from a common source, eg s frost or pump overun stat without getting a back feed and switching everything else on. Nowadays, end switches in valves have largely made them redundant. Martin
Where as WS is talking about relays from maplin..F*ck me what a tool. Do you mean Maplin do not sell relays Just proves he's literature spouting tube with no practical nouse at all. Relay's are generally only used to switch high loads from a small control voltage or by placing an earth on the relay as in aircraft cockpit switching. I would suggest not standard in many home heating installations. You clearly have not got a clue. Drayton used to market the RB1 and RB2 which were single and double relays respectively. They were used to switch boilers, valves and pumps from a common source, eg s frost or pump overun stat without getting a back feed and switching everything else on. Nowadays, end switches in valves have largely made them redundant. Martin Are they still available? However if you want a two pump system a relay invariably has to be used. Maplin sell them inc base for around £5. Just fit them in a plastic electric box on the wall. I always bought two and put one in the box as a spare, if the relay burnt out plug one in and out. This sort of thing baffles plumbers, but second nature to heating men.
The Drayton RB1 relay and box is ....£54. Wow!!!!! You can knock one up for around £10 in minutes with parts from Maplin.
Where as WS is talking about relays from maplin..F*ck me what a tool. This plumbelec man is totally mad. He should stick to drains.
Hungry bunny,Just read my post they are the options from basic (which is the type of system you have) to a modern fully pumped system.Your choice.