help choosing twin pack (drill/impact)

Discussion in 'Tool Talk' started by la_midgeet, Jul 28, 2017.

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which do you rather

  1. DeWalt DCZ298S2T-GB 18V 1.5Ah Li-Ion Cordless Combi Drill & Impact Driver Twin Pack (9801T)- £169.99

    16.7%
  2. Bosch GSB18+GDR18 18V 1.5Ah Li-Ion Cordless Combi Drill & Impact Wrench Twin Pack (3913R) - £149.99

    83.3%
  3. DeWalt DCZ298C2-GB 18V 1.3Ah Li-Ion XR Cordless Combi Drill & Impact Driver (7017J) - £159.99

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    0.0%
  4. Erbauer ERI742KIT 18V 2.0Ah Li-Ion Cordless Combi Drill & Impact Driver Twin Pack (9478T) - £139.99

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  1. la_midgeet

    la_midgeet New Member

    hey guys,

    trying to choose a twin pack, as I generally wear through most drills quite quickly.

    I am struggling to find which would be better,

    price is a slight issue, as I will be scraping together if was to get the more expensive option, however I am willing.

    each kit has its ups and down, so I'm looking for recommendations, and which is the better value for money including durability etc.

    the choices are:

    DeWalt DCZ298S2T-GB 18V 1.5Ah Li-Ion Cordless Combi Drill & Impact Driver Twin Pack (9801T)- £169.99

    http://www.screwfix.com/p/dewalt-dc...ess-combi-drill-impact-driver-twin-pack/9801t

    or

    Bosch GSB18+GDR18 18V 1.5Ah Li-Ion Cordless Combi Drill & Impact Wrench Twin Pack (3913R) - £149.99

    http://www.screwfix.com/p/bosch-gsb...ess-combi-drill-impact-wrench-twin-pack/3913r

    or

    DeWalt DCZ298C2-GB 18V 1.3Ah Li-Ion XR Cordless Combi Drill & Impact Driver (7017J) - £159.99

    http://www.screwfix.com/p/dewalt-dc...n-xr-cordless-combi-drill-impact-driver/7017j

    or

    Erbauer ERI742KIT 18V 2.0Ah Li-Ion Cordless Combi Drill & Impact Driver Twin Pack (9478T) - £139.99
    http://www.screwfix.com/p/erbauer-e...ess-combi-drill-impact-driver-twin-pack/9478t



    thanks for your help
     
  2. Greentram

    Greentram Member

    I'm a Makita guy myself. My instinct for cordless tools (with apologies to our hosts) would be to give the Erbauer a miss and go for a make that has sales and service support. Are the DeWalt 1.3 batteries compatible with other tools? If not, give it a miss. My first Makita drill, bought when I didn't know better for light work, used 1.1 batteries that were not interchangeable with the 1.5/3.0 used by all their other cordless tools so I ended up having to start again.
     
  3. KIAB

    KIAB Super Member

  4. P J Thompson

    P J Thompson Active Member

    I'd encourage you away from the erbauer.
    The two dewalt kits are the same just with different batteries. Is it worth the extra cash for 0.2 Ah per battery????
    The Bosch kit is comparable to the more expensive dewalt but £20 cheaper and £10 cheaper than the cheaper dewalt.

    So if money is an issue I'd say go for the Bosch.

    But, really I'd say none of the above. These are all brushed kits. My suggestion would be to get a decent brush less combi drill for now with bigger batteries then save up for a brush less impact driver from the same range.
     
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  5. KIAB

    KIAB Super Member

    Makes sense,brushless has a lot of advantages, batteries last longer between charges, & more efficent tool.

    I also have the Bosch GSB 18V-EC brushless combi & it is superb,compact, well balanced, surprisingly led light is useful, bought it naked, but you can find it available as various kits with different batteries supplied 2x 4Ah, 2x2Ah & 1x4Ah & 1x 2Ah, so look around.

    http://www.screwfix.com/p/bosch-gsb-18v-ec-18v-2-0ah-li-ion-brushless-cordless-combi-drill/3030j

    https://www.priorityplumbing.co.uk/...MIk7mF25qu1QIVx6ntCh10QQOREAQYBSABEgJ3evD_BwE

    http://www.toolstop.co.uk/bosch-gsb-18v-ec-combi-drill-the-safest-on-the-market-a1607
     
    Last edited: Jul 29, 2017
  6. P J Thompson

    P J Thompson Active Member

    And I've got a dewalt dcd796. That too is a very nice combi. Light, balanced, powerful, controllable, rugged, goes all day on a 4Ah battery and as you say, the lights are very handy. Also the gearbox and clutch are spot on.

    Brush less is the way forward. In all regards better than brushed kit :)

    ETA, I've just noticed that the dewalt has better charge times than the Bosch. The Bosch you linked to is 65 mins for a 2Ah whereas dewalts are around 60 mins for a 4Ah. Dewalt wins :D
     
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  7. KIAB

    KIAB Super Member

    Went off Dewalt after having so much grief getting a new combi replaced after it self destructed, after only a few hours of use.

    One thing I do like with bosch brushless is the 'anti kick back feature', drill cuts out if it jams while drilling hole.

    And Bosch Multi Construction TCT Drill are great in cordless drills.

    http://www.toolstop.co.uk/bosch-gsb-18v-ec-combi-drill-the-safest-on-the-market-a1607
     
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  8. P J Thompson

    P J Thompson Active Member

    That kick back control is a great thing :)

    Regarding the knackered dewalt, it's a shame that 'bad ones' exist. But they likely do in all brands. Never had a problem with a dewalt myself but your experience shows that it does happen. Customer service is another area to consider when making your choice I guess.
     
  9. Sparkielev

    Sparkielev Screwfix Select

    TS were doing a decent price on Milwaukee drill sets I bought one and can't fault it
     
  10. la_midgeet

    la_midgeet New Member

    I do like the look of Milwaukee's and I have heard they're good, just they are very much out of my price budget.
     
  11. Wayners

    Wayners Screwfix Select

    For light work like kitchen assembly. Fitting a few sheets of plasterboard. Small fencing you need a small set. For bigger jobs like building work you will need something bigger and more powerful. I overboard with plasterboard and general repairs so 10.8 volt small makita black and white is just about ok. It's light enough to handle for what I use however if I was doing heavier work I would want 2+Ah or probably more. So the question is... Do you want a small lightweight drill+impact or something more powerful. Depends what your doing.. Oh.. Batteries are only £25 so I have 4. Rather have 4 on a light drill than 1 massive heaver drill + impact...
     
  12. la_midgeet

    la_midgeet New Member



    I thought about maybe the 10.8v,
    However I do occasionally use it for alot of woodwork (kitchen fitting, making bunk beds, laying decking or frames, sheds etc) although they aren't normally all in the same week/month. I don't think there's a week where I'm not using them. I don't think the 10.8 would hold up?
     
  13. Dr Bodgit

    Dr Bodgit Super Member

    Another Makita chap here. Primary consideration I would say is which range and batteries you favour; batteries are interchangeable.
     
  14. Wayners

    Wayners Screwfix Select

    I was using the 10.8 volt mikita impact to put 160mm screws through loft timbers. It was powerful enough to pull the ceiling joists up leveling in lounge ceiling. Amazing.. No problem but after 5 screws it started getting very hot. Started loosing power after 8 screws so I swapped battery. Really needed something more powerful for the job but I don't normally do this type of work. Ideally I would want a small set and a larger set for heavier work and maybe hammer action on drill. I really like the Milwaukee sets and works out cheaper if you buy the tool packs. Do a nice 12volt set for £250
     
  15. Wayners

    Wayners Screwfix Select

  16. KIAB

    KIAB Super Member

  17. sospan

    sospan Screwfix Select

    I normally use DeWalt kit, started using it now it is too much cost and effort to change. However, it has never let me down

    At the moment the Bosch kit is a very good deal, it is about £50 less than some of the prices elsewhere. The big decider for me when selecting drills and impact drivers is the torque. When you look at the cheaper DeWalt (42Nm) drill to the Bosch (62Nm) - tbe Bosch has a clear advantage.

    Whilst they all will do a job for you. I would suggest you go for the Bosch kit
     
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  18. KIAB

    KIAB Super Member

    Bosch has a quite few advantages with quite a few of it's 18v range of tools, the GDX 18 V-EC impact driver I mentioned above is just one.

    And their GLI 18V-1900 cordless site light,well designed, something else I like,but not the price.:(

    http://www.axminster.co.uk/bosch-gli-18v-1900-floodlight-18v-body-only-103930
     
    Last edited: Jul 30, 2017
  19. la_midgeet

    la_midgeet New Member


    The Milwaukee is way put of my price range unfortunately,
    However. I have noticed that 90% of people here are suggesting bosch, (not going to lie bosch was originally my last resort out of the 4 options)

    Now however my mind has been somewhat swayed,

    What do you reckon on the following 12v drill/impact, not sure if it's all for looks or if it would actually be useful, the highlight for me is the 90° head.

    But I'm sure you can see where I'm coming from when I say it looks like it is just for show.

    http://www.axminster.co.uk/bosch-gsr-12v-15-fc-drill-driver-set-12v-2-x-2-0ah-103608
     
  20. KIAB

    KIAB Super Member

    Stick with 18v, you'll be greatful for the extra power, plus there is a wider range of 18v tools, if you decide to add to your cordless collection.

    Also the GSR 12V-15, it has no impact function for masonry, it's purely for drilling wood/metal & screwing, & even for that it lacks much torque.
     

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