If you're not part p certified

It's generally accepted that you need what used to be the C&G 2381 16th edition + 2391 testing and certification. I'm not sure what you need now but I would imagine it's the equivalent. 2392 + 2382 by the looks of things.

 

Different schemes have different requirements. You can also have no qualifications and ask LABC to sign it off for you at a cost.

If you concentrate on becoming a fully qualified electrician to JIB standards there will be nothing you cannot do.

 

If you have 2360 parts 1 & 2 then you will need the 2357 NVQ 3 and the AM2.

 

Yep.

 

Part P is the responsibility of the home owner not the person carrying out the work.

 

A few years back and no. But that's not to say the work needs to confirm to Part P, a way of showing this would be to do the work to BS7671 and issue the correct certification on completion. A lot of diy's forget this or simply don't know.

 

This is a minefield(pun intended, see legislation contents list) just the same as the Gas regulations and but not to be considered one of the same.

http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1989/635/contents/made

Once again as is the case with Gas work, electrical work and regulations do not apply to the DIYer.

From the HSE about 'WORK' including a DIY person:

For the purposes of these Regulations, ‘work’ includes do-it-yourself activities,
work undertaken as a favour for friends and relatives, and work for which there is
no expectation of reward or gain, eg voluntary activity for charities. This means that
anyone carrying out such work must have the necessary competence, as required
by regulation 3(1). However, membership of an HSE approved class of persons
(under regulation 3(3)) is required only by businesses carrying out gas fitting work.

When you look at Electrical installation regs these regs in the Legislation link i have provided above, one can see compliance to regulations are set out for employee or self-employed persons.
If you are a DIYer and you carry out the work without reward or gain then all the regs and certification including Part P do not apply to you.

That said, Competence DOES. That means although you can do what you want you can not install something dangerously. The word Competence in Electrical work tends to have a ever so slightly different sense as to when it is used in Gas work. So for the sake of completeness it is said within the legislation:

Persons to be competent to prevent danger and injury

16. No person shall be engaged in any work activity where technical knowledge or experience is necessary to prevent danger or, where appropriate, injury, unless he possesses such knowledge or experience, or is under such degree of supervision as may be appropriate having regard to the nature of the work. ​

This then means, you can do what you want provided you posses the technical knowledge and experience as to prevent danger.

You need to make sure you voluntarily follow the regs and make suitable arrangements to have your electrical work tested by a person who is an employee or self-employed person.
If for some reason you decide to not follow the regs and do a dangerous thing then you are going to seriously face difficulties in the future. Especially if the Housing Enforcement team catch up with you and feel you are living in squalor. There is allot of other legal systems in place such as the right to a good home. This does trigger all dangerous wiring and plumbing legislation alike as with building control etc. As i said, it is a minefield so best to follow the regs and if unsure Google or ask someone who does know.

Legislation does not exclusively give the HSE or the Electrical organisations the power of Law or any degree to control any person. What it does mean is that you could be fined or face prison if you do not make sure you have the relevant knowledge and skill to prevent danger. They have to investigate and find out if you do or not, then prove without a doubt that you either do or don't.

What does planing portal say about Part P and the subject in hand:

http://www.planningportal.gov.uk/buildingregulations/approveddocuments/partp/approved

You can now use a third party certifier to test your work. I think the key here is get it tested but in all fairness if you have done a very good job and know how to make sure of that(test yourself) then all is good. That test certificate is important if you sell the house and the buyers solicitor asks for it so you will need get a third party registered certifier in to test and inspect it and hand you a written report for the new buyer.

This new phrase if we can call it that of "Professionally Installed" that has been floating around for a few years seems to be a cursed phrase. What exactly is Professionally Installed? Is it a system installed by a DIY person who has done an very Professional job, or a installation installed by a so called Professional that may or may not be a very Professional job. To who's opinion is this installation standard compared against exactly for the definition for it to be Professional.
Should we be better calling it a Competent install that is fully certified? Or better yet a High Quality up to date install that has been tested to current regulations?
Surely calling it a Professional install does not really tell you anything. Could be a 30 year old Professional install that has had a recent test certificate done.

A quick note on signing off work.

Either a plumber or a Electrician who signs off work, this is an instrument of his job in compliance with HSE(health and safety) while on site or on a job in regard to the work he has carried out.
If work is carried out by a DIY person then a the sparky is considered a third party certifier and can only produce a safety test certificate for the test he performs on wiring and protective devices, earth leakage test, inspection etc.
He can not sign off work, it is stupid to even consider another person signing off another persons work. This falls back to the Electrical and Gas organisations and registrar(whatever you wish to call them) dystopia of fascist autocratic ***** stealing a honest traders cash.
These organisation are guilty of maladministration by not acknowledging the DIY market.They then go on to brag about how DIY work causes so much harm in society when in fact it is cowboy tradesmen who are to blame for the majority of dangers, yes DIYers do cause dangers but not as much as they make out. It is their self important attitude and hate for those who wish to DIY and all because of money in their pocket. They want your money and they can not charge a DIYer this charge.

That said i am sure we have all seen some of the crazy things people do when wiring up an electrical appliance, there is a fine line between maintaining your freedom and being safe.

 

still notifiable in Wales!

 

All this talk about Part P.

Some call it building regs but i forgot to mention that building 'Control' are pretty much the nastiest bunch of **** you would ever have the misfortune to come across.

These are the devils that work with your local council and housing enforcement officers. If they find something not up to regulation they can kick you out your house and stop you living in it until it is fixed(they usually don't, they grant you time to fix it).
I'd say that makes them the brutal overseers of all things including DIY, they have good reason to do what they do and it takes allot for them to actually kick you out your own home, they do fine you allot though.

They are the only people i know of who can sign off another persons work. It is only their inspection in collaboration with the local council who are capable of just about god like powers through the entire spectrum of regulations yet oddly they rely on accurate reports and certificates from those who are testing appliances like Boilers and Electrical circuits.

 

Yup that sounds about right, I had similar experiences with them. Who in the right mind would have granted these people such control. Oh wait, yes a corrupt government filled with rich fat lobbyists.
Lately it would seem that the House of Lords is more on our side than the House of Commons. This country is in a mess.

It really is beginning to look like a dystopia, something only the movies could come up with.

In my area they just passed of an install for fire doors to be installed in purpose built flats. To everyone else an FD30 fire door is tested as a set, door frame, leaf and hardware and anyone tampering with that tested set voids the integrity making the door nothing more than a glorified door. Somehow they changed the frame and hardware, did not place the FD30 certificate label on the door(because they can't as they voided the certificate) and then got it passed through without any question.
Seriously if we did that we would be in prison or doing community service with a hefty fine.