Immersion heater timer questions

Discussion in 'Electricians' Talk' started by Shawt, Aug 28, 2015.

  1. Shawt

    Shawt Member

    Qualified sparks fitted Grasslin timer a few years ago. It stopped working and taking it apart revealed that its innards had melted. Sent it to Grasslin for comment and they diagnosed loose live feed, confirmed by discolouring of multistrand flex. Ferrules should have been fitted

    Would it be smart to rewire immersion heater and, if so, with what gauge?

    Thanks in advance for all advice.
     
  2. seneca

    seneca Screwfix Select

    1.5mm H/R flex from switch/timer to immersion element.
     
  3. Coloumb

    Coloumb Screwfix Select

    If the live was loose fitting a ferrule wouldn't make any difference?
     
  4. Shawt

    Shawt Member

    The helpful Mike at Grasslin explained that over time multistrand compresses and works loose, even if a tight fit was achieved on fitting. Grasslin supply ferrules with the
    timer. Anyone else come across this?

    Thanks Seneca for the spec - for clarity, are you saying use that cable from swith to timer and from timer to immersion?
     
  5. seneca

    seneca Screwfix Select

    Yes that will be fine.
     
  6. Shawt

    Shawt Member

    Thanks folks, I feel better informed.
     
  7. nigel willson

    nigel willson Screwfix Select

    Twist cable and or solder!
     
  8. seneca

    seneca Screwfix Select

    Don't tin, (solder) the ends of flex because the solder "gives" after a while making the connection loose.
     
  9. nigel willson

    nigel willson Screwfix Select

    Not if you don't put loads on!
     
  10. Bazza-spark

    Bazza-spark Screwfix Select

    Wrong!

    Solder should only be used for connections designed for soldering.

    On screw terminals as Seneca said the solder gives due to the flux collapsing. As this happens the connection gets hot which accelerates the flux collapse making the connection even worse and hotter. This can result in burnt connections leading to fire.

    Don't do it. Use ferrules!

    Kind regards
     

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