Insulation over LED lights

Discussion in 'Electricians' Talk' started by Matt_H, Dec 7, 2016.

  1. Matt_H

    Matt_H Member

    Hi All,

    Our dining room has a flat roof above it. The ceiling is plasterboard and directly above the plasterboard is insulation.

    I have recently has LED downlights fitted.

    The downlights have been pushed right up into the insulation.

    The electrician says this is fine as LEDS don't generate much heat.

    Can anyone confirm this please?

    Thanks
    Matt
     
  2. tore81

    tore81 Screwfix Select

    Yes they are far cooler to run than the old halogen. Seen them burned out a number of times.

    Wait for others to see what they say but yes definetly less heat
     
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  3. koolpc

    koolpc Super Member

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  4. tore81

    tore81 Screwfix Select

    Over the last five years government scheme which is free to add another layer of insulation.

    Do you think that insulation installers. Checked to see if there were down lighters, cables underneath. I very much doubt it.

    It's a worrying thought really
     
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  5. koolpc

    koolpc Super Member

    Whatever, i decided to err on the side of caution
     
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  6. FatHands

    FatHands Well-Known Member

    If you know the manufacturer you can email them. I fitted some not long ago and it stated in the guide that they were OK to cover. I think the only concern is if someone were to swap them for halogens, but if its you and you intend to keep them like that cannot see a problem. I have left some on for days (not Intentionally!!) And they are as cold as ice.
     
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  7. koolpc

    koolpc Super Member

    I would still be worried
     
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  8. Matt_H

    Matt_H Member

    I have bought insulation boxes to put over the 2 I have in the loft.

    However the 4 in the dining room I can't access from above to put boxes over them....the only access I have is through the round holes in the ceiling from below.

    Is it good enough to just push the insulation back a bit with my hands?
     
  9. koolpc

    koolpc Super Member

  10. Matt_H

    Matt_H Member

    Thanks koolpc.

    The downlight has a frame that looks like it would be doing the same job as that guard.

    So would it be ok to use this without the guard - I don't think that guard would fit over the top.
     

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  11. koolpc

    koolpc Super Member

    To be honest, that frame looks enough. Fine i would say. See what others say
     
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  12. Jord86

    Jord86 Screwfix Select

    You'll be fine with leds, minimal heat generated, with halogens keep rockwool about a foot away and that will be more than sufficient.
     
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  13. tore81

    tore81 Screwfix Select

    If you are concerned pull the insulation out so it can't get to the light.
     
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  14. tina lucinda lane

    tina lucinda lane Screwfix Select

    depends on the heat exchange system your leds use if its a vented air system then insulation may cause problems metal heatsinks same problem may happen
     
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  15. tina lucinda lane

    tina lucinda lane Screwfix Select

    could fit the fire hoods that go through the downlighter hole into the void above
     
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  16. deanomc

    deanomc Member

    We had British Gas ( or at least a sub contractor to them) install blown insulation throughout our whole loft as part of the government scheme. To be fair, I thought the same thing regarding them not protecting any downllights but to my amazement they put a hood over every single one of them. Guess I was lucky.
     
  17. koolpc

    koolpc Super Member

    Good as that is the proper thing to do.
     

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