Need Advice on Ceiling/Wall? ...

Discussion in 'Builders' Talk' started by jwaza, Mar 23, 2009.

  1. jwaza

    jwaza New Member

    Hi & welcome to all.

    I am a new member on this forum.

    Just two quick questions.

    1. What type of product would resolve
    a problem between the lining of the
    ceiling and the wall. It appeares there
    is a few mm gap between the ceiling and
    wall. What would remedy this?

    2. Also with regards to the above problem, I
    also thin lining cracks on the wall. Again
    what product would reslove this issue.

    Thanks and appreciate your help, guys. My DIY
    skills is not good, so please apologise for this.

    Thanks,

    Jack
     
  2. Use this for the crack between the wall and ceiling,

    It's hard to advise on the wall cracks, the plaster might have lost its adhesion, try chapping the wall if it sounds hollow in parts, it will require a skim.
     
  3. jwaza

    jwaza New Member

    Thanks Midnight.

    This seems to me to be a cheap version.

    But then again my DIY skills is not great.

    I actually one which is mold resistent. I do
    not think this would be the ideal one.

    Thanks again
     
  4. You don't get mould resistant caulk! only silicone. caulk is designed for painting/decorating over.
     
  5. decorator dave

    decorator dave New Member

    Hi Jack,

    how old is the property? is it a new build? or has this work been carried out recently?

    As MC has said, the cracks in the plaster may have blown, tap along crack to see if it sounds hollow.

    If the cracks are not blown, cut down the crack with a stanley knife then just fill, rub down, and re-paint.

    The cracks at the top, again as MC has said, decoarators caulk will generally fill these, if the gap is slightly bigger you have two options,

    Corner tape all the way round, fill to hide tape edge or

    Fill gap with easifill, rub down and re-paint.

    If this is a new build, it sounds like settlement, and this is normal.

    regards
     
  6. jwaza

    jwaza New Member

    right, okay. Never knew this.

    As I have mold problem, what would
    be the alternative before I apply
    this?

    Would a Acrylic Filler be an option?
     
  7. decorator dave

    decorator dave New Member

    Sorry, didn't see a mention of mould?

    What mould problem do you have, and where is it affecting?

    And is this a new build property? because you will probably have a lack of proper ventilation and this can cause your mould problem.
     
  8. jwaza

    jwaza New Member

    Thanks for your thoughts Dave.

    Acually my property is an old
    victorian terraced house. Must
    be over 100 years old.

    Yes, I actually got loads cracks,
    but not big holes, it is more like
    small hair line cracks.

    The problem this stems is from Mold.

    I realised this, when I took down the
    wallpapers and realised I had quite an
    significant problem.

    Furthermore, I had mold in the ceiling,
    and I got rid of this today, with fungicidal
    wash and realised also I've got balck mold
    on the wall as well. I got some rid of with
    fungicidal wash.

    I will paint the ceiling with an Mould Kill
    Emulsion tomorrow. But as midnight suggested
    nevertless I would need to get the gap between the wall and ceiling sorted first. So that's why I wanted to make
    sure of this damn mold problem.

    I appreciate any and all suggestions.

    Thanks,

    Jack
     
  9. decorator dave

    decorator dave New Member

    Right,

    What room is it? bathroom, etc

    100 years old, it would be old lathe and plaster, unless it has been re-boarded or re-plastered at some point.
    If it has been re-boarded, then they may have covered over an air brick/vent.

    Is the mould on the external walls?

    If you have used fungicidal wash, make sure you wash it down with plenty of clean water before painting.

    Caulk as MC pointed out there is not a specific anti-mould version. Caulk will be fine or filler.

    Before doing any re-painting you need to source the problem causing the mould, or it will just happen again.
     
  10. chippie244

    chippie244 Super Member

    Just to back up what Dave has said you have 2 separate unrelated problems. The mould will probably be linked to ventilation and the cracks need either filler or caulk. Don't use silicon.
     
  11. decorator dave

    decorator dave New Member

    hi chippie,

    lets hope this hasn't got heated ceilings. lol
     
  12. jwaza

    jwaza New Member

    The problem this occured is in the bedroom.

    Actually, and it's a coincidence all the bedrooms
    upstairs have mold problem.

    My bedroom is at the back faceing the garden.

    I am a bit mystified why my bedroom has the most
    mold problem as the rest of the rooms upstairs. And
    it is the coldest in the winter? Could this be a wall or roofing problem?

    if I care to remember I never had the walls plastered or replastered for that matter.

    The most mold was seen in ceiling and then it had black mold in patches on the wall.

    I am sure there is something wrong?, worried possible health risk.

    Dave, would you advice of painting the wall of mold emulsion paint? Once mold has been removed of Fungicidal wash?
     
  13. chippie244

    chippie244 Super Member

    If your bedroom is the coldest room this will be where you get most condensation, try turning the heating up and opening some windows. Do not get a heated ceiling :)
     
  14. decorator dave

    decorator dave New Member

    by the sounds of it you do have a problem with your roof, at that age it is highly unlikly that it will have a roofing membrane on it. When you go in the loft, do you see tiles or is there a black felt accross the trusses?

    Check you loft insulation, cold water tank, and all pipes in the loft area for leaks.

    You don't need to use fungicidal emulsion, once you have worked out what is causing the problem, rectify then scrub walls and ceilings again and then leave to fully dry out. This can take a couple of months if really damp.
    Then stain-block any black streaked areas then use normal emulsion.

    Black mould spores can cause a health risk, but as you have now scrubed down you should be ok, and if it re-appears during investigations just knock up some bleach and water mix and use that ratio 8 to 1, its cheaper then fungicidal wash and does exactly the same

    It is difficult to give accurate advice without actually seeing it, what area are you in?
     
  15. chippie244

    chippie244 Super Member

    Other solutions may be available!
     
  16. decorator dave

    decorator dave New Member

    yes, heated ceiling, chippie is the man to fit this for you. lol
     
  17. jwaza

    jwaza New Member

    I had done the roof around over 11 years ago. My dad got a coucil grant, and some cowboys, done a crappy job of it.

    Chippie, thanks also of your thoughts, I sa Dave has highly recommended you to do a heating ceiling! Is this true.
     
  18. jwaza

    jwaza New Member

    What other solutions do I have.
     
  19. decorator dave

    decorator dave New Member

    hi jack,

    no the heated ceiling is a standing joke between us.

    Have your problems started about 12 months after your roof was done, or is it more recent?
     
  20. jwaza

    jwaza New Member

    Hi Dave,

    This problem has persisted for around
    over 10 years plus.

    I have a problem with mold, every year I
    clean it out, but it comes back.

    I choose the traditional route of using
    an mold paint the first time, and will
    use it soon.

    But truth be told, I haven't got an foggiest
    on how to deal with, until I started using
    google for searches, and using this forum as
    an platform to get generic advice.
     

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