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It needs an EIC, (electrical installation certificate) it is also notifiable to Building Control. If he's registered with a Competent Person Scheme, eg niceic etc. he can do this, if not it should have been notified before he started the job.

 

In a word, yes it is! There's no reason why he can't issue an EIC but the notification is going to be the problem.
Is the rest of the work ie new kitchen subject to a building notice? if so it might be covered by that although they will want to see the EIC.

 

The only other way to get around this would be to have your local council test the property. Building control should be able to sort this. It will cost but in my opinion it's a cost that can be handed to you electrician as he knew he wasn't part p and therefore couldn't sign the work off

 

Yes that's probably what the OP will have to do Spen. There's no reason why the spark can't give him an EIC, especially as he's said he's 17th!
It's all so easy when registered with a scheme, do the job, test, issue the EIC and notify! (still resent paying them the 500 quid a year though)

 

Contrary to what many people think, Part P is not a qualification, it's just a section of the Building Regulations.

 

Also, if he's willing and able to do an EICR there's no reason he can't do an EIC, provided he has the knowledge and equipment to do the necessary testing.

 

Electricians dream up all sorts of excuses to avoid testing and certifying. Electricians who don't test and certify their work are in my opinion no more than installers, not electricians. Part P is now used as the excuse not to do it. Before Part P it was "I haven't got my 2391". I would stand your ground with him because if you involve the LABC you could incriminate yourself, its the customers responsibility to notify, not the electricians (yes it is!), if he isn't a Part P registered spark. Only Part P registered sparks are allowed to do work without notifying. Its unfortunately very common in this industry to not do the paperwork as you have found out.

 

You can get the work "retro registered", it just mean you will have to pay the LAB fees and for the work to be tested. Only a PIR can be given, not an EIC but afaik the LAB are ok with this.

Not sure why @unphased is saying this, there has not been one criminal prosecution done by the LAB for part p infringement that I'm aware of. If you explain what's happened I can't see why they would get all busted up over it. I can't really see what they would gain from it tbh, more hassle than anything. In fact, last time I spoke to them about my own work I said if I decide to later get my work certified for BC their advice was just to "take lots of pictures of the work as it's done" so they "have something to look at".

 

You should be paying NOTHING for it. All electrical work should have an installation cert. especially a major heart lung transplant like changing a CU.
AND changing a CU is notifiable work. It's s LEGAL requirement. He knows that.
Tell him you are going to report him to the LABC.
Maybe he has to pay his mate to come and test and lie that he has done the work but
It's his problem to sort out. Not yours, at your expense.

 

Lol.
It is the householder or person ordering the work who is responsible for notification.
Yes a trades person is responsible for ensuring their work complies with the Regulations, but it is not their responsibility to notify.
Report the electrician to the LABC, all they will do is issue a compliance notice to the OP.
If the electrician informed the OP that they would do the notification, or that they were a member of a CPS, then that would be a matter for trading standards.

 

Building control are very funny when it comes to this thing. When u first started u wasn't part p or registered and had to get with the nic sharp as building control ouldnt accept certs unless they came from a registered contractor or a part p contractor. Email building control and get it in writing what they want. If you have the quote from the electrician or and emails texts ect that may show he agreed to sign of the work take legal.advise. you have employed him to do the work and as an electrician he should sign off all work. If he doesn't and won't the law is on your side. There's nothing g to say it's safe or meets standards

 

I am fully in agreement that you should not pay out anything to get the certificate you need. If the electrician you employed wants someone else to do it on his behalf, then he should be paying the bill to him as a private arrangement, nothing to do with you. Like you said earlier in the thread you don't care how he gets it certified as long as its done, but not at your cost. This scenario is so common getting "a mate" to sign it off. Testing is such a straightforward exercise and easy as pie to do I just don't get why so many sparks cant do it.

 

The Electrician MUST supply an Electrical Installation Certificate. That is a requirement of BS 7671:2008 (2015). Without this the job hasn't been completed.

However, from my understanding of Part P of the Building Regulations in England and Wales only (and I am not in either England or Wales) you should have informed Building Control beforehand if the Electrician could not self-certify. Therefore if he did not tell you that he was capable of self-certification for the purposes of the Building Regulations then it is both your problem and your cost (not his). He cannot have another contractor certify Building Regulations compliance for him either so that IS DEFINITELY NOT the way to solve your problem.