New Fence ideas

Discussion in 'Landscaping and Outdoors' started by koolpc, Sep 20, 2016.

  1. koolpc

    koolpc Super Member

    I am going to be building a fence. Approx 20ft x 6ft high.

    Been reading about these:

    http://www.homebase.co.uk/en/homebaseuk/forest-lightweight-concrete-fence-posts---pack-of-10-444814

    Not worked out quantities yet. Wondering if anyone has used these lighter concrete posts?

    As for fixing, would 12" into ground be enough (with rapid set concrete)

    The alternative is 4" x 4" wooden posts.

    I like the idea of also using concrete gravel boards even if using wooden posts as i could fix them with brackets.

    I will be making a fence with feather edge, going vertical, both sides of the rails.

    Any advice would be great. Ta
     
  2. Phil the Paver

    Phil the Paver Screwfix Select

    20' is only 3.3 bay's so 4 posts.

    Those post work out at £21odd ea, I pay £9.60 for them from my fencing supplier, try your local fencing suppliers.

    For a 6' fence you need 8' posts going just under 2' in the ground, leaving them a couple of " above the panels, set them in a dry ballast and cement mix well compacting it in 6" layers.

    Have you considered using morticed post and Arris rails these are 10' so only 2 bays needed, still have concrete gravel boards.

    close-boarded-fencing-concrete-posts-basildon-essex.jpg
     
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  3. koolpc

    koolpc Super Member

    What you have above is similar to what i have in mind but without the trellis.

    Have you used those 'lighter' concrete posts?
     
  4. Phil the Paver

    Phil the Paver Screwfix Select


    Don't think the morticed post comes in a light weight version.

    Have used the slotted post and light weight gravel boards, in fact I have them here at home.
     
  5. sospan

    sospan Screwfix Select

    The one comment - why are they only guaranteed for 16 months ??

    I would expect a good 20 years out of concrete posts. So what you may find is there is no metal bar in them which could make them very brittle.
     
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  6. Phil the Paver

    Phil the Paver Screwfix Select

    There are reinforced with steel or should I say my are, though mine are a different company.
     
  7. sospan

    sospan Screwfix Select

    Normally find they are, it is just the ones on the link have a 16 month guarantee. Such an odd number, as if they don't expect them to last.

    Mind you the full thickness, rebated concrete posts can be a real so and so getting them spot on, especially getting them when using the concrete gravel boards
     
  8. KIAB

    KIAB Super Member

    Better to use quailty posts, & concrete gravel boards, not much fun having to dig out a well concreted post, if it fails.:rolleyes:

    PS: Machine Mart only offer a 12 month warrenty for same post as Homebase:eek:, plus they are up to 45% lighter than existing concrete post,doesn't inpire confidence in them.
    Looking at photo, I've seen better posts.

    https://www.machinemart.co.uk/p/for...GS-140617472&gclid=CNekgbrins8CFfMW0wodnOIOAA
     
  9. Dr Bodgit

    Dr Bodgit Super Member

    Concrete posts look horrid IMO. Had some nice fencing built at my previous house, 5"x5" posts, arris rails slotted and doweled into the posts, wooden gravel boards, everything done by hand. Made with the right wood and treated they lasted fine and looked so much nicer.
     
  10. KIAB

    KIAB Super Member

    Can paint the posts, can get coloured ones I think are still available.
     
  11. sospan

    sospan Screwfix Select

    I had a picture stored somewhere of concrete posts, low run of gabions with a feather edge fence on top of the gabions. It did look stunning with a lot of contrast between the posts, gabions and timber
     
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  12. KIAB

    KIAB Super Member

    You can achieve some great effect using gabions & timber.
     
  13. sospan

    sospan Screwfix Select

    Never get the options to use gabions at all :(

    One of the things I have been thinking of producing in my workshop is ornamental fencing, gates and specialist garden furniture. A lot less hassle than some of the other jobs I have been doing recently
     
  14. KIAB

    KIAB Super Member

    Look on Pintrest, some great ideas there.

    Been looking for some wrought iron fencing for the front here,even second hand they make silly money, annoying thing I use to do a lot of metalwork, the bow top gates I made at last place, took them with me & fitted them here, then when I moved here I got rid of my anvil, scroll formers,etc, just didn't have the space to keep it all, now regreting selling it.
     
  15. Is it to replace an existing fence or brand new?

    What I have done in some repair situations in the past, where the upright concrete post wasnt deemed to be pretty enough, was to put in concrete spur repair posts, then bolt wood to each side of the post, then fixed cant rails to the repair spur post, then the featheredge to the rails.

    Effective result, concrete posts in the ground to avoid rot, all wooden uprights above ground and then put the featheredge over the concrete post to hide them

    Got a photo somewhere, will find it and post to show the idea better than words
     
  16. KIAB

    KIAB Super Member

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    Can still have concrete posts, but showing neighbour's side, & you can still bolt arris rail to them.

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  17. koolpc

    koolpc Super Member

    Already built the fence a few weeks ago. 4 x 4 wooden posts and feather edge. Used an existing gate and made to fit. Pic attached

    New Fence and Gate.jpg
     
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  18. sospan

    sospan Screwfix Select

    I have a select of stuff from all over the place(magazines, web - pinterest etc.) and was going to make up some specimens over the winter. Then get my daughter to go and hawk them round the country fairs etc. The costs to produce the items below aren't that much, its just the set up time

    I have been looking at the wrought iron work especially to put into gates and tables. There are lots of people doing wrought iron fencing down here. but mainly by using the pre-made items. Very few actually twist their own bars most cut the bar, put in a collar and then place a section with a twist (or basket) in the middle. I saw one guy assembling a "wrought iron" fence where he didn't actually weld anything it was either bolted or bonded !

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  19. KIAB

    KIAB Super Member

    No money in wrought iron work today, too many doing it.
    Today everything can be bought ready made, like railheads,rosettes,flowers,even complete panels,etc,etc.
    All my scrolls I hand made for my gate, today you can buy them pre made for pennies.:(

    http://e-wroughtiron.co.uk/epages/w...ps/www_e_wroughtiron_co_uk/Categories/Scrolls

    Japanese timber bridges use to be popular, helped a old joiner many years ago make a couple for some big house, along with some fence panels like those below for their wall garden.

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  20. KIAB

    KIAB Super Member

    Geometric fence panels was the word eluding me.
     

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