Painting plastic

Discussion in 'Painters' Talk' started by lintim, Aug 2, 2007.

  1. ponty01.

    ponty01. New Member

    Those of you who live in greenhouses should not throw stones :(
     
  2. lintim

    lintim New Member

    OOPs hope I have not stirred the hornets nest on this one. Currently the louvres are brown, and the customer wants them black. So will check on the Dulux web site for Upvc paint and instructions. Thanks all for your help.
     
  3. Astramax

    Astramax Super Member

    Stop fluffin about and just give each shutter 2 coats gloss black, job done. Do'nt sand just wash. Will last for years.
     
  4. Burlington Bertie

    Burlington Bertie New Member

    Dont believe all you read Bertie Bassett, a lot of it
    can be pure carp. After all just have a look at some
    of your own postings ha ha ha !!!!!!!!!!! :)

    Back to normal with another useful post I see. Yes, a lot of it can be carp. Ignore what Dulux say if you wish, that's your prerogative (that's how it's spelt by the way, not how you spell it). Me, I just try to help if I can
     
  5. ponty01.

    ponty01. New Member

    Bertiie Dulux are a good source for info, but dont forget to mention the exemptions ;)
     
  6. Ion Transient

    Ion Transient New Member

    > Those of you who live in greenhouses should not throw
    stones :(


    IWS..don't bend with the wind..be yourself, whatever others say
     
  7. Mr. Handyandy

    Mr. Handyandy Screwfix Select

    Where'd you get that tosh from ?

    UPVC is UPVC on surface, and it's UPVC throughout.

    NO degrading of plastic by rubbing down, cutting,
    shaping WHEN PAINTING OVER especially.


    Mr. HandyAndy - really

    Oh dear Mr Handy Andy - Really. That 'Tosh' as you
    call it came from the Dulux Trade website


    Now, since ICI make plastics, I think I would be
    inclined to believe them, would'nt you??



    NO. I wouldn't be inclined to believe them. Shock, horror. Big company like that / Handyandy don't believe them.

    Laugh then bertie, and others.

    Read this:
    Please note: uPVC Windows cannot be painted even if they become discoloured or damaged with age. The same comment applies to plastic cladding, facias and soffits. This is worth remembering before you spend a lot of money replacing the existing wood version. It is always cheaper and easier to redecorate wood and you can change the colour any time you want, which you can't do with plastic.



    Then hazard a guess at where I copied it from.

    OK. Stop guessing. I'll tell ya.

    THE DULUX TRADE SITE.




    Mr. HandyAndy - really
     
  8. Mr. Handyandy

    Mr. Handyandy Screwfix Select

    Oooh, no update here, I see!!!!

    Mr. HandyAndy - really
     
  9. Georgieboy

    Georgieboy New Member

    Atramax said: Stop fluffin about and just give each shutter 2 coats gloss black, job done. Do'nt sand just wash. Will last for years.

    I have to say, that is the most sensible answer yet.
     
  10. Mr. Handyandy

    Mr. Handyandy Screwfix Select

    Atramax said: Stop fluffin about and just give each
    shutter 2 coats gloss black, job done. Do'nt sand
    just wash. Will last for years.

    I have to say, that is the most sensible answer yet.





    Yes. But if it's really shiny plastic, a tad rub down for key is GOOD.


    You are painting it, after all, and degradation of said plastic don't matter.


    Mr. HandyAndy - really
     
  11. Telmay

    Telmay New Member

    you could always use Dulux ultragrip primer or Zinnser bullseye and then gloss as normal, however have always done what astra suggested :)

    Handy - with keying the plastic do you not think it will grin through the finish?
     
  12. Astramax

    Astramax Super Member

    [i]Handy - with keying the plastic do you not think it will grin through the finish?

    Spot on Tel.
     
  13. Welsh Decorator 42

    Welsh Decorator 42 New Member

    What a right one this has been!
    Any "Plastic" is a pain to paint, there is no mechanical "key" for the paint to cling to, the best that you can hope for is for it to stick for a reasionable period of time.
    One possability might be to use a coat of E.S.P. but again, there is not a definative product that will stick indefernatly.

    Well.....that's my 6 peneth worth!
     
  14. Mr. Handyandy

    Mr. Handyandy Screwfix Select

    [i]Handy - with keying the plastic do you not
    think it will grin through the finish?


    Spot on Tel.



    Why would it 'grin' ?



    Mr. HandyAndy - really
     
  15. Telmay

    Telmay New Member

    there is no mechanical "key" for the paint to cling to,

    Thats what the utra-grip will do.

    Andy - grin means show through, i.e. if you abraide the surface all the marks will show through like a racing dogs knackers

    Gcat - hope this does not count as bad language, I have tried to clean up my act ;)
     
  16. gardm1nt

    gardm1nt New Member

    Depends on the grade of paper.

    Personaly as Ive said Ive always used the dulux upvc paint with no abrasion.
     
  17. Mr. Handyandy

    Mr. Handyandy Screwfix Select

    Depends on the grade of paper.

    Personaly as Ive said Ive always used the dulux upvc
    c paint with no abrasion.




    Of course it depends on the grade of paper.

    One wouldn't use 60grit on plastic. More like 600. It's only to take off the shiny surface.

    :)X (no grinning)




    Mr. HandyAndy - really
     
  18. Burlington Bertie

    Burlington Bertie New Member

    NO. I wouldn't be inclined to believe them. Shock,
    horror. Big company like that / Handyandy don't
    believe them.

    Laugh then bertie, and others.

    Read this:
    Please note: uPVC Windows cannot be painted even
    if they become discoloured or damaged with age. The
    same comment applies to plastic cladding, facias and
    soffits. This is worth remembering before you spend a
    lot of money replacing the existing wood version. It
    is always cheaper and easier to redecorate wood and
    you can change the colour any time you want, which
    you can't do with plastic.




    Then hazard a guess at where I copied it from.

    OK. Stop guessing. I'll tell ya.

    THE DULUX TRADE SITE.




    Mr. HandyAndy - really

    Why should I laugh, Mr H? I may disagree with you but you are entitled to your opinion

    As for your post that you claim comes from the Dulux Trade website saying that uPVC cannot be painted. Two point: 1 - Since Dulux make uPVC paint, then this is obviously an error 2 - Why would a paint site for trade painters say This is worth remembering before you spend a lot of money replacing the existing wood version. It is always cheaper and easier to redecorate wood and you can change the colour any time you want, which you can't do with plastic. It would not be the trade painter who would be interested replacing wood with plastic so he could'nt care less about cost of replacing. I don't believe this came from the Dulux Trade site

    You can disagree with big companies if you wish, but I would be more inclined to believe them than you. As I said before they make plastic and with the greatest respect, should know more than you about it

    You carry on degrading plastic if you wish, after all you will probably be long gone by the time it's knackered
     
  19. Mr. Handyandy

    Mr. Handyandy Screwfix Select

    Oh bertie, bertie, bertie.

    Please look here. Scroll down to the last paragraph, then come back on here and tell us where the info comes from.



    http://www.dulux.co.uk/advice/diy/windows.jsp

    Oh, it's quite obvious from the title of the link.


    Shall we see you soon ?

    Mr. HandyAndy - really
     
  20. Burlington Bertie

    Burlington Bertie New Member

    Checked out the link. It is not the Dulux Trade web site as I suspected. So I am back on here telling you where the link comes from (or anyone can try clicking on it to find out for themselves)
     

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