Path for soil pipe from bathroom

Discussion in 'Builders' Talk' started by Possom, Mar 30, 2017.

  1. Possom

    Possom Member

    The toilet soil pipe will emerge from the wall at the green point marked in the diagram below. This is within the kitchen roofspace.

    The two alternative pathways to connect this to the main downpipe are via the red path which would mean a hole would have to be cut through the roof slates. Can the roof be effectively sealed once cut through in this manner?

    The second route is via the blue path. The pipe would travel within the kitchen roofspace then down and through the kitchen ceiling and immediately corner and through the external wall. Therefore an elbow would be visible within the kitchen. Perhaps more chance for blockage.

    Which would you suggest is the best path?

    Thanks!

    upload_2017-3-30_0-58-52.png
     
  2. KIAB

    KIAB Super Member

    None.
     
  3. sospan

    sospan Screwfix Select

    Have you been taken over by Chippy ? :D
     
    Last edited: Mar 30, 2017
    longboat and KIAB like this.
  4. sospan

    sospan Screwfix Select

    With the "green spot" way you will have to align it so it misses the ridge and any timber where the roof connects to the house, and anny rafters. The pipe would have to come out at least 300mm probably 450mm into the roof space and come at an angle to meet the soil pipe.

    Drilling the hole and connecting this up within the roof void is not going to be easy.

    Undoubtedly a good roofer is going to be able to seal around the pipe but it is going to look ugly.


    The better way would be to run it along the wall inside the bathroom and then bring it out to miss the roof space.
     
    Possom and KIAB like this.
  5. KIAB

    KIAB Super Member

    Had coffee, so awake,it's the only way to do job properly or relocate bog a bit so it's closer to stack, & missing roof when pipe comes through wall, neater than a long pipe boxed in bathroom.:)
     
    Last edited: Mar 30, 2017
  6. KIAB

    KIAB Super Member

    [​IMG]
     
  7. sospan

    sospan Screwfix Select

    probably find there is some sort of restriction (or desire :rolleyes:) to place the toilet in line with the ridge ....
     
    Possom likes this.
  8. KIAB

    KIAB Super Member

    SHMBO:eek:
     
  9. Possom

    Possom Member

    I'll measure it, but I think the top of the soil pipe would be at least 30cm below where the top of the external roof ridge is.

    The toilet can't be located anywhere else in the room (room dimensions: 1.4m x 1.7m).

    I don't think it's really possible to run the soil pipe inside the room first before exiting at a better location due to the size of the room. I want to get a 1.4m long bath, a basin and a toilet in there, so there just isn't the space to run a soil pipe along the wall. Also running the pipe under the rafters isn't an option either due to the rafter direction.

    With this being the case, is the red path the preferable option (due to possible blockage issues with the blue path)? It's at the back of a terraced house with a yard, so there won't be any issues with respect to anyone sitting in a back garden and observing that it emerging from the roofspace is unsightly.
     
    Last edited: Mar 30, 2017
  10. sospan

    sospan Screwfix Select

    Yep :D
     
  11. sospan

    sospan Screwfix Select

    Fitted a toilet waste underneath a cupboard and the end of the bath before, it is surprisingly easy .

    if you plan it out, you can use things like this and you are going to face the same problems with the sink and bath waste.

    [​IMG]
     
  12. Possom

    Possom Member

    The bath waste won't be a problem as it would emerge from the wall further to the right on the external wall (observed from outside) so would be clear of the kitchen roof.

    The waste from the basin, being much narrower pipework than toilet soil pipe just runs under the floor. There are notches already cut in the rafters from some previous time.

    The image above, is that a standard toilet to wall connector - standard diameter?
     
  13. sospan

    sospan Screwfix Select

    Notching joists for waste pipes isn't the best. The image, I posted is a standard size fitting from our hosts.
     
  14. Possom

    Possom Member

    I've just realised there is potentially a third path the soil pipe could take.

    The soil pipe would still emerge from the same point on the wall within the kitchen rood cavity (same green spot as per first post). The soil pipe then takes a path within the kitchen roof cavity ( yellow path). This then emerges through the kitchen wall at the second green spot (there's no window on this wall). This path means it doesn't emerge through roof slates, as the red path did in post 1.

    There is a manhole cover (red square) and an old outside toilet (red box) just outside, so presumably the soil pipe could go down into the ground and be connected up to the sewer pipe. This would require some digging up of the concrete ground.

    Also, it would mean the soil pipe is not going into the stack on the wall, which is open at the top to permit release of gases. I don't know if an open top stack is permitted at the reduced height where it emerges at the second spot on the kitchen wall?

    [​IMG]
     
  15. Phil the Paver

    Phil the Paver Screwfix Select

    Should have done the box Blue, then you could have transported yourself off anywhere you like. :D:D:D:D
     
    Possom likes this.
  16. Possom

    Possom Member

    Unfortunately the outside loo is as small on the inside as it is on the out.
     
    Phil the Paver likes this.
  17. Phil the Paver

    Phil the Paver Screwfix Select


    :p:p:p:p:p:p:p:p
     

Share This Page

  1. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register.
    By continuing to use this site, you are consenting to our use of cookies.
    Dismiss Notice