Porch damp please help

Discussion in 'Builders' Talk' started by adambucky, Oct 21, 2016.

  1. adambucky

    adambucky New Member

    Hi there. My house is approx 30 years old.
    In that time there has been a porch built on the front. It has a double glazing door externally with a wooden door with glass in which seperates the living room from the porch.
    Every winter there the internal porch walls which have about 10 layers of white paint on, turn black from top to bottom. You could wipe it off with a rag, but obviously this cant be done everyday. Today i decided to try an airbrick so i took 2 bricks out as its a double skin brick wall with no cavity.
    If this continues to turn black what can i do to stop it from happening.
    Bear with me as im a fabricator/fitter/ machinist but not a builder.
    Pic on link

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  2. KIAB

    KIAB Super Member

    Can't see photo's, if you want to upload on to this forum, they need to be 2Mb maximum.
    Photo working now.

    Having a double wall is unnecessary & no cavity doesn't help things, probably no dpc either.
    Ventilation usually helps, but in your case I don't think it will.
     
    Last edited: Oct 21, 2016
  3. koolpc

    koolpc Super Member

    Condensation sounds like. Do walls get very wet in winter?
     
  4. Astramax

    Astramax Super Member

    Clue is in the 4th sentence ! ;)
     
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  5. koolpc

    koolpc Super Member

    Not as clever as you! lol
     
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  6. Astramax

    Astramax Super Member

    Already figured that out:rolleyes:
     
  7. koolpc

    koolpc Super Member

    lol..............u swine!! :D
     
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  8. Astramax

    Astramax Super Member

    What area of the country are you?
     
  9. adambucky

    adambucky New Member

    North. Burnley
     
  10. adambucky

    adambucky New Member

    Hi yes. Although the walls turn black it almost a yellow residue on top
     
  11. KIAB

    KIAB Super Member

  12. adambucky

    adambucky New Member

    Thankyou for your reply. What i find strange is it worse toward the top of the porch.
    It has a sloping roof on which over hangs on both sides and the front. The pointing has cracked on 1 course at the top of the windows and door. It has steel lintels in aswell
     
  13. KIAB

    KIAB Super Member

    More detailso_O, now that changes things.:)

    Any gutter on porch,if not water can be thrown back against wall, got any photo's of area above window, flashing on roof area, could be water is getting in & draining down, & soaking brickwork, water can do many strange things getting from A to B.
     
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  14. adambucky

    adambucky New Member

    Ive done a quick rough video of my predicament. Hopefully it will show you the full extent.

    Thanks

     
  15. KIAB

    KIAB Super Member

    Thanks for video, makes things a lot clearer.:)

    A damp proof course running around above the window, totally crazy!:eek: can't undertstand why it's there, other than to stop any leaking water soaking down.:confused:

    Definitely need a gutter both sides, as water splashes off paving & back onto wall making it wet.
     
  16. adambucky

    adambucky New Member

    Ok great il start with that.
    Stuck for room as it is but would i get away with roofing slats and foiled back plasterboard to effectively make my own little cavity.

    Also behind the pointing where the top of the windows which i think is 16mm plywood.

    Its all foreign to me
     
  17. PaulBlackpool

    PaulBlackpool Screwfix Select

    I think it is just a combination of penetrating damp, lack of air circulation and possibly condensation. The fact that it is wet in winter and dryer in summer reinforces this view. The rustic bricks you have will absorb a certain amount of moisture and with the walls being a solid 9 inch it will come right through from outside. it appears that your main front door from a security point of view is the porch door. So if the house is empty then you will shut all the porch windows and you probably close the inner door as well. You therefore create a dead unheated ,unventilated space that just absorbs moisture from outside and only gets better in summer.
    So you really need to get rid of the moisture in the bricks. One way would to get a new doubled glazed door to replace the inner door so this would be your proper front door for insurance and security purposes. Remove everything from the porch and leave all the windows and the outer door open when somebody is in and it is not raining. If no one is in lock both doors but leave the porch windows well open. The temperature inside the porch would then be similar to outside. This should stop any condensation and the airflow would help to dry out the bricks. You could also use a dehumidifier but their is really no substitute for a fresh breeze.
    As has been said the gutters should be properly in place and connected to a down pipe and if their really is no damp course one or two bricks up from the ground then it is quite easy to insert a chemical one.
    One it has all died out inside you could use a wire-brush to remove all the paint you can and either leave it at that or paint it with some breathable paint.
    Also repair any defective pointing (where that crack is).
     
  18. adambucky

    adambucky New Member

    Thanks for the reply. I have just knocked out for air bricks.
    You are correct though but doors remain closed constantly
     

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