Power shower or electric shower

Discussion in 'Plumbers' Talk' started by Dominic Tarrant, Jan 20, 2016.

  1. Dominic Tarrant

    Dominic Tarrant New Member

    Hi All

    I'm fitting a shower in my bathroom and wondering what will be better , I have fairly low water pressure so what would be the best option? And can anyone recommend a good shower for the money and nothing too expensive

    Thanks Dom
     
  2. plumber-boy

    plumber-boy Well-Known Member

    This is cheap. Homemade-Shower.jpg
     
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  3. FatHands

    FatHands Well-Known Member

  4. Dominic Tarrant

    Dominic Tarrant New Member

  5. plumber-boy

    plumber-boy Well-Known Member

    Sorry Dominic I couldn't help myself.
    Power showers are better than electric and Mira are a good brand.;)
     
  6. Dominic Tarrant

    Dominic Tarrant New Member

    No problem :) Thanks for the advice mate
     
  7. Dom, what do you mean by 'fairly low pressure'? Do you have a cold storage tank in the loft? What's the water flow from your bath taps like? (And is this where the shower is going?)

    My bro recently had a Mira Excel thermostatic shower fitted on a low pressure system. He says it works surprisingly well - more than I'd expected since he has little 'head' - but it looks as tho' the guy who fitted it wasn't as switched on as he should have been. It has flow restrictors on the supply inlet and hose outlet, and you can even remove the non-return valve from the outlet if your pressure is really low. I asked my bro to check the box of bits left over from the install, and these parts weren't there - so it looks as tho' this expensive plumber from a well-known plumbing co didn't read the instructions or carry out the basics.

    So the chances are it'll work even better.

    Anyhoo - it's a pretty expensive mixer, but can be found well discounted.

    By the way, a 'power' shower suggests the use of pumps - so this will be costly if you go that route.
     
  8. chippie244

    chippie244 Super Member

    Was the plumber from Pimlico?
     
  9. plumber-boy

    plumber-boy Well-Known Member

    Bet he was.:)
     
  10. Dominic Tarrant

    Dominic Tarrant New Member

    Hi I'm unsure about a tank as I cant get into the loft above my flat but got a combi boiler. I brought a bath tap with shower hose attached and wasn't enough pressure for this hence the new shower fitting but kitchen taps seems to be alot better pressure.

    Thanks I'll look into the mira shower you've mentioned

    Thanks again
     
  11. Yep...

    After sourcing a couple of booster pumps and reminding my bro where the pipes come down from his storage area, this twit comes out and says "I wouldn't bother fitting the pumps as there's no room under the bath. Anyways, you need a heating engineer for that - I'm just a plumber..."

    One pump was meant to go in the f'airing cupboard and t'other in t'f'CWS storage shed up on t'roof!

    Grrrrrrrrrrr.

    Mind you, the guy was good - he fitted the bath mixer in just over two hours... (keeping the existing shower rail which my bro was ok about as it meant no extra holes in his tiles.)

    "I'll only charge for the 2 hours..."
     
  12. plumber-boy

    plumber-boy Well-Known Member

    If you're running a combi you're on mains pressure.
     
  13. Dominic Tarrant

    Dominic Tarrant New Member

    Hi yeah I know its mains pressure but still unsure why the bath pressure is fairly low, could it be due to bits sitting in the copper water pipes....
     
  14. You have a bludy combi?

    Sheeeesh...

    In which case if your mains pressure is that pants, I dunno if a leccy shower will help you either.

    Is your cold kitchen tap fast-flowing?

    The hot taps will flow less - they are restricted by the heating limitations of the boiler. What make and model is it.

    I assumed too much from your 'power shower' heading. You cannot (normally) add a pump to a combi (although nowadays you can, within a limit).

    Can you try a litres-per-minute test on your cold kitchen tap? Bucket under, run full-on for 10 seconds, count the litres and 'times' by 6. Report back.
     
  15. Dominic Tarrant

    Dominic Tarrant New Member


    Kitchen taps are fine just seems to be the bath taps as the bathroom sink is fine too. Ok will do this test tomorrow evening and get back to you

    Thanks
     
  16. It often looks as tho' the bath taps release less water chust 'cos they are bigger! The water 'shoots' out the smaller bore of a basin tap, but the same amount of water looks as tho' it's casually spluttering out the larger bath taps - that's how it is in my hoosie anyways... :oops:
     
  17. Dominic Tarrant

    Dominic Tarrant New Member

    Hi just done the litres per min test and the results are 12 litres
     
  18. Hmm, that's certainly 'adequate' but hardly 'impressive'.

    However, a combi-powered shower will still be miles better than a leccy one.

    The only way a leccy shower is 'better' is that it wouldn't be as badly affected by other taps being turned on - 'cos it passes less water in the first place. But a thermostatic mixer should prevent extreme temp variations.

    As for the shower unit itself, will it be a wall mounted mixer or a bath/shower deck mixer?
     
  19. Dominic Tarrant

    Dominic Tarrant New Member

    Thanks for the advice so a power or eleccy shower will be fine in your opinion? It will be a wall mounted unit
     
  20. We are clearly speaking different languages...

    'Power' showers usually refer to those that are pumped for extra gushiness.

    A combi-powered shower is effectively mains powered, so its effectiveness is dependent on both the mains pressure and the power of the boiler. Usually, tho', they give a decent shower. In fact a great shower with a decent boiler/pressure.

    Leccy showers are carp. The pits. Nasty, horrible, hateful things.

    Because they tend to give a weak thin spray, especially in winter. A leccy shower is the last type I would have.

    But they have their uses.
     

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