Radiator

Discussion in 'Plumbers' Talk' started by Fiona Gibson, Aug 19, 2017.

  1. Fiona Gibson

    Fiona Gibson New Member

    I cannot get the valve off a radiator. I can't get the radiator turned off. The cap just keeps turning round and the threads have gone in the screw on the top of it. How can I get the cap off.
     
  2. andy48

    andy48 Screwfix Select

    Turn off the valve at the other end.

    Radiators (nearly always) have a valve at each end. One (which may be a thermostatic valve) is used to control the temperature, and has a knob which you can turn to adjust the flow through the valve. The other, called a lock shield valve, is only adjustable by removing the cap (which may just pull off or may be screwed on) and using a spanner on the flats of the valve spindle. The lock shield valve is used to balance the system so that no one radiator steals all the heat. If turning off the lock shield valve, count, and make a note of, the number of 1/8 turns necessary to fully close it. Then it can be re-opened to the same position and maintain the system's balance. Close the valve by turning the spindle clockwise looking down from above.
     
  3. Fiona Gibson

    Fiona Gibson New Member

     
  4. Fiona Gibson

    Fiona Gibson New Member

    Can I turn the radiator completely off like this and keep it off without affecting the rest of the heating.
     
  5. DIYDave.

    DIYDave. Screwfix Select


    Will be helpful if you post a picture of the valve and plastic cap as a few different methods out there for turning off / adjusting rads

    Some caps are purely cosmetic and need removing to gain access to valve underneath, they usually pull off or may need a flat screwdriver to ease off

    Some caps clip onto valve spindle and turn valve on off, again pull off (but can be tight)

    Other caps screw on to top of valve spindle, remove screw, cap lifts off

    Thermostatic valves again are different

    Post a piccie I suggest
     
  6. andy48

    andy48 Screwfix Select

    Turning off either or both valves will stop the radiator heating.
     
  7. Fiona Gibson

    Fiona Gibson New Member

    image.jpeg I've never used one of these forums so I hope this is right. image.jpeg I have done one of each end. It is quite an old radiator.
     
  8. DIYDave.

    DIYDave. Screwfix Select


    I'm only diy myself but here goes (although I could be wrong) :(

    1st pic looks like bottom section of a TRV - Thermostatic Rad Valve

    Have you removed the top section yourself ? If so replace it and turn valve off - usually numbered so turn to zero

    Although actual valve looks a bit corroded so may possibly be seized. A squirt of WD 40 wouldn't hurt

    2nd pic - looks like the cap has been missing for some time as valve has been painted over. Simply turn off clockwise with spanner, grips, (will have 2 flat sections of spindle)
     
  9. terrymac

    terrymac Screwfix Select

    first pic does not look like a trv ,think its a wheel head with cap removed. Fiona ,can you do a frontal pic of that valve ? and can you actually turn that valve clockwise or anti clockwise ?
     
  10. Fiona Gibson

    Fiona Gibson New Member

    image.jpeg Sorry for the delay. This is the front view, the other was off the top where the head has gone on the screw. Is there any way to get this cap off? But as long as it's ok I can try turning off the other end.
     
  11. terrymac

    terrymac Screwfix Select

    that is a very old wheel head valve ,and if it just turns and turns non stop ,then inside it is not engaging with the spindle .its had it I'm afraid.as the retaining screw head is "chewed " up ,it will be very difficult for you to remove the head. if all you are really needing to do is turn the rad off,so it will not heat up ,you can close down the left valve. which is the lockshield. take careful note of how many turns it takes to close this valve ,as it must be returned to the position it is in now ,when you need to bring the rad back into use. so for instance ,if it takes 2 and a half full revolutions clockwise of the spindle to fully close the valve ,then you would have to turn it exactly the same amount anti clockwise to bring the rad back into use ,and maintain the balance. with regard to the valve with the chewed up screw ,if you want to get it off ,the wheel head looks like plastic to me ,probably very brittle with age ,and would likely just crush off with a bit of persuasion .
     
  12. Fiona Gibson

    Fiona Gibson New Member

    Thanks everyone for all the help, but I think I'll have to call a plumber. I have also noticed that 2 of the radiators are not heating, so I think my system is unbalanced. I'd had a new bathroom done in May and thought it was ok then but haven't been using the heating. So I think I'll take this opportunity and replace this old radiator. Now to find a plumber Thanks all
     

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