Removing carcas without disturbing worktop?

Discussion in 'Kitchen Fitters' Talk' started by Marello, Feb 18, 2014.

  1. Marello

    Marello New Member

    Hi all,

    I'm sure this is a fairly basic question to some of you, but please bear with me, I'd be very grateful for some pointers and your expertise.

    I recently bought a new build flat. It's clearly been built quickly and I wouldn't be surprised if some shortcuts have been taken given that they did obviously smart things like glue the bathroom mirror to the wall....

    The kitchen is small, and has all the plumbing and electrics in place for a slimline dishwasher. The space designated for the dishwasher currently is a standard kitchen unit, ie. it has the carcas, shelves and cupboard door on it.

    Is removing the carcas something someone with literally no DIY experience can do? I can see there are screws inside the cupboard connected it to nearby units which I can remove, but I'm concerned it may be attached to the worktop by some method I can't see. Some websites I've read on the subject have implied the entire worktop may need to be removed, or else the worktop may be glued to the cupboard.

    Any help appreciated!
    Thanks :)
  2. BuilderMCR

    BuilderMCR Active Member

    There will be screws through into the neighbouring base units. Remove these screws

    There might be screws going upwards into the worktop or blocks near the sides of the unit if so remove these.

    Remove the plinth then try to pull the unit out. The work tops might have glue under them though. So you might have to remove the legs from underneath and give the bottom of the unit a bit of "persuasion" to loosen it a bit. But if you do this make sure you do have all of the screws out
  3. Devil's Advocate

    Devil's Advocate Well-Known Member

    Hi Marello.

    Yes, they can be removed without disturbing the worktop - usually at least...

    What's behind the floor plinth - do the units have 'legs' or are they sitting on their sides? If 'legs', that's good news as they'll be better quality units, and you can screw the legs in to lower the carcase away from the top.

    The base unit will be screwed to the worktop through obvious fixings - metal angle brackets or plastic blocks - if you can't see any, then the chances are that that particular unit is not screwed to the top.

    So, undo all the side screws you can see (and replace them if they are not obviously joining the units together!), lower the legs by screwing them upwards, and see if the unit drops - it may need a little persuasion as it could be a tight fit.
  4. BuilderMCR

    BuilderMCR Active Member

  5. Devil's Advocate

    Devil's Advocate Well-Known Member

  6. joinerjohn1

    joinerjohn1 Screwfix Select

    Carcases can be removed. Remove the plinth at the bottom of the units. Remove any screws holding the unit to the worktop and adjacent units (warning, the screws holding it to adjacent units could be hidden behind the hinge plates, and can also be screwed through from adjacent units) There may well be screws holding the unit back to the wall, which might be hidden behind the service void too. After removing all screws, you'll have to lower the adjustable feet of the unit, allowing it to drop. Just a case then of sliding it out.;)

    When you fit the dishwasher, the plinth may well have to have a bit on the top, cut out, to allow the dishwasher door to open fully. (follow the MI's instructions) ;);)
  7. DIYDave.

    DIYDave. Active Member

    Without wishing to repeat the above advice......

    You may find that the unit has been fixed to the wall with right angled brackets which are located behind the back of the unit, ie. in the service void
    These would have been fixed in place with the unit back removed and the worktops not fitted
    After securing to the wall, the backs will have been slotted in and the worktops fitted
    So now, these fixing wont be accessible

    This might not be the case as carcass construction may vary, units may have been fully assembled with fixed backs

    Worst case scenario will be after removing all visible fixings, just wrench the unit off the wall
  8. joinerjohn1

    joinerjohn1 Screwfix Select

    That's right Dave, although it's quite usual when fitting kitchens to only screw the end of run units to the wall (anything in between is usually just screwed/fixed, to adjacent cabinets) So the OP might be quite lucky. ;);)
  9. DIYDave.

    DIYDave. Active Member

    We may even be lucky JJ and the OP will let us know how this job goes ?

    So many questions
    So many answers
    So much advice
    So little feedback
  10. Rulland

    Rulland Member

    He's unconscious on his kitchen floor after wrenching the unit out and whacking his head on the cooker behind.
  11. joinerjohn1

    joinerjohn1 Screwfix Select

    Marello's busy, ripping the unit out.. Sadly , someone's fixed it back to the wall with epoxy inserts and has also glued the adjacent cabinets together. :D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D:D

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