Shaver point buzzing

Discussion in 'Electricians' Talk' started by Retlas, Sep 1, 2016.

  1. Retlas

    Retlas New Member

    Hi, I have a shaver socket that buzzes and is slightly warm all the time ( when not in use) I assumed that when not in use they would be dead. As I have two and the second one does not make a buzzing/ get warm do I have a problem.

    Advise would be appreciated
     
  2. Pollowick

    Pollowick Screwfix Select

    Depends on the type/brand. On some, the transformer is permanently energised and a small amount of power is used which creates the warmth you can feel. Others, have a switch or detector on the input and they are only energised when a device is plugged in.

    The buzzing is often caused by a a component being loose or transformer laminations slightly separating which means that as the 50Hz AC continually changes the magnetic field there are vibrations at around 100Hz which is what you can hear.
     
  3. Retlas

    Retlas New Member


    Many thanks
     
  4. Smokey

    Smokey Active Member

    Assuming it's a traditional (Toroidal ) not electronic transformer, could well be harmonics vibrating; have you looked inside to see if practical to mount the transformer part on rubber washers to absorb the vibrations?
     
  5. Pollowick

    Pollowick Screwfix Select

    Toroidal - you must be joking. Everyone I have seen uses cheap E-I laminations.
     
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  6. Bazza

    Bazza Screwfix Select

    Change it for an MK one. They only energise when something is plugged in to the shaver socket.
     
  7. Pollowick

    Pollowick Screwfix Select


    And make sure it is the newer MK one ... they will do electric toothbrush charging too.
     
  8. nigel willson

    nigel willson Screwfix Select

    replacement time
     
  9. Bazza

    Bazza Screwfix Select

    I thought I had suggested that! ;)
     
  10. Retlas

    Retlas New Member

    Thank you all, very helpful. Turns out that the unit has little flaps behind the plug holes and when they are open with the plug the unit is activated. The little flaps were stuck open from the last use and when the clicked back the buzzing stopped and the unit cooled down. I will buy a new unit.

    All the help enabled me solve this matter and learn something, so again thanks all.

    R
     
  11. Pollowick

    Pollowick Screwfix Select


    What brand? Some, such as MK have 10 year warranty.
     
  12. TP&N

    TP&N Active Member

    Sticking shutters , a job for a little and I mean a little Silicone grease, Or a little Mr Sheen that stuffs full of silicone.
     
  13. tina lucinda lane

    tina lucinda lane Screwfix Select

    hope the power was off or you used something plastic to poke the shutters with
     
  14. Bazza

    Bazza Screwfix Select

    Could he get a shock from doing that? Surely the reason for UK 'shaver points' is their separation from the earthed supply side.
     
  15. tina lucinda lane

    tina lucinda lane Screwfix Select

    metal object into the live pin socket i though you become the earth but hey you want try that go ahead then tell us what your hair dresser charged you for re doing your hair do (know i wouldnt take the risk)
     
  16. Bazza-spark

    Bazza-spark Screwfix Select

    Alex, these sockets are supplied via an isolating transformer so there is no path back to earth. Exactly the same as the transformers used for power tools. The only risk of shock is via line to neutral on the output side.

    Kind regards
     
  17. Bazza

    Bazza Screwfix Select

    That's because you are a bit short of understanding. Maybe this will help

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    You cannot get a shock from that. As my alter-ego says, there is no path to earth. You are just like a bird on a HV cable. No shocking experience.

    Your only shock opportunity is to shove one metal thing in one socket hole and another into the other hole and grab hold of them both.
     
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  18. Bazza-spark

    Bazza-spark Screwfix Select


    Nicely done.

    Kind regards
     
  19. ZeZs

    ZeZs New Member

    Replaced a faulty shaver socket today, went for an MK. The shaver socket was wired directly into the lighting circuit, no independent isolator. Nothing unusual about that, it was done a long time ago......

    Driving home and i am trying to decide if I should, to keep in line with regs, install a switch.

    In an ideal world I would, no problem, but customer does not want the additional expense.

    Thoughts and feelings appreciated.
    Thanks.
     
  20. sparky Si-Fi

    sparky Si-Fi Screwfix Select

    Could do with a dual 230V outlet on them and ditch the 115 for the UK market, I mean who still uses electric shavers! 'orrible things

    Its a pain in the **** as its sat there looking at ya with two toothbrushes on a swop shop routine
     

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