Splitting a bathroom fan and light on to 2 switches... more help please!!

Discussion in 'Electricians' Talk' started by andyw1230, Jan 19, 2017.

  1. andyw1230

    andyw1230 New Member

    Up until now i have had a single bathroom switch (outside bathroom!) that powers the lights and the fan/light all together. However wanted to split the fan off and have a double switch , 1 switch for lights and one switch for fan/light.

    Therefore have introduced a 3 core and earth and double switch and now have the following:

    Switch one ; controls all lights (inc light in fan)
    Switch two; controls fan

    So far as i can see the fan has both perm live and switch live in it .... however

    Switch one: turns lights on all fine
    switch 2 (fan): only works if the light (switch one) is in the on position

    Then the overrun timer works.

    If you have both switches in the off position and try just turning the fan on it doesn't work at all so for example if you wanted to just have the fan on in daylight hours whilst showering , you cant!

    any advice ...have tried swapping everything around and about to go crazy!!!!
     
  2. CGN

    CGN Screwfix Select


    Tricky ain't it?! :D

    Just having a think about this...it can be done, although it's not perfect. You'll need a double light switch, but each switch must be a 2 way.

    This is how it works.

    Sw1(lights/fan)

    Sw2 (fan only)

    The only problem is, if sw2 is left in 'on' position, when you flick sw1 'on',
    the fan won't come on till you flick sw2 'off'.

    This could be useful though as it means you can have the following.

    Lights/fan on together
    Fan on
    Lights on

    A 2way switch has a common and 2 outputs. The common will be connected to one output with the switch in one position and then connects the common to the other output when you flick the switch.

    I'll put a diagram below
     

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  3. CGN

    CGN Screwfix Select

    Btw, you should have a 3 pole isolator between fan feed and fan

    In diagram sw1 is shown in 'on' position.

    Sw2 is shown in 'off' position
     
    Last edited: Jan 20, 2017
  4. leesparkykent

    leesparkykent Well-Known Member

    Double pole switch for lights and fan and 1way switch for just fan. One pole on double pole switch switches fan and the other pole switches lights....this way when you just operate the fan switch it doesn't bring the lights on. Use click mini grid and it'll look like a normal switch rather than a grid switch.
     
  5. leesparkykent

    leesparkykent Well-Known Member

    fan.png

    Carp drawing but should give you the gist.
     
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  6. CGN

    CGN Screwfix Select

    Ahhh...didn't know you could get a double pole light switch...useful :)
     
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  7. andyw1230

    andyw1230 New Member

    Thanks for the reply so does that mean by doing this you will still get the run in timer working when you are only using the fan and you turn it off after use ?
     
  8. andyw1230

    andyw1230 New Member

    Thanks for the reply so does that mean by doing this you will still get the run on timer working when you are only using the fan and you turn it off after use ?
     
  9. andyw1230

    andyw1230 New Member

    Thanks for the reply so does that mean by doing this you will still get the run on timer working when you are only using the fan and you turn it off after use ?
     
  10. CGN

    CGN Screwfix Select

    Yes. With either version.
     
  11. andyw1230

    andyw1230 New Member

    So this is how I have the current setup .... however when I have it wired like this the fan is on permanently!!!

    Grrrrr...... !

    Any ideas ?
     

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  12. CGN

    CGN Screwfix Select

    Can't see anything obvious after a quick glance. Might be worth checking fan on its own.
     

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