Stack Dado

Discussion in 'Carpenters' Talk' started by Adbuild, Jan 17, 2005.

  1. chippie244

    chippie244 Super Member

    He doesn't seem to have a morticer or tenoner.
     
  2. goldenboy

    goldenboy Super Member

    Its a pointless conversation with regards to this fool.

    I don't think aside from embedding videos off Youtube he has any point of reference. Certainly there seems to be little evidence of any practical experience.

    I just think its good policy bearing in mind this is a public forum to point out when the advice or suggested methods are entirely wrong and dangerous.

    Nothing wrong with full length rip fences, I use one all the time when ripping but when used in conjunction with a sliding table crosscut fence it must be set back behind the blade.

    Using unguarded blades is poor practice full stop.

    Stacked dados are not used professionally in this country, you might find the odd exception but they will be few and far between.
     
  3. goldenboy

    goldenboy Super Member

    I have been in and around machines all my working life and have seen plenty of people have "accidents". From minor through to life changing. From little nicks to multiple fingers gone. All without fail were entirely preventable. "Accidents" happen through user error, or through safety measure bypasses such as the kind of guard removal Ryluer seem to think is fine.
     
  4. Ryluer

    Ryluer Well-Known Member

    Yes wheel out the victims now.
    That's the usual tactics deployed by h&s zealots these days.
     
  5. goldenboy

    goldenboy Super Member

    I am just telling you from personal experience what having no respect for machines and machine safety can do to people.

    Stacked dados are fearsome pieces of kit, removing guards is idiotic and not learning how to use machines safely is foolish

    Combine all three and you are an accident waiting to happen.
     
  6. Ryluer

    Ryluer Well-Known Member

    Felders grooving cutter sets (dado) are timid compared to the wobble saw blade I have in my spindle machine. Makes grooves in solid stock very fast though.
     
    Last edited: Jul 11, 2015
  7. goldenboy

    goldenboy Super Member

    But a wobble saw in a spindle is guarded you fool. I have one in my spindle.

    Again never heard it called a "spindle machine"

    Spindle moulder yes spindle machine no
     
  8. Ryluer

    Ryluer Well-Known Member

    Or shaper machine. [​IMG]

    The dado cutter is always guarded when the material passes over it.
     
  9. goldenboy

    goldenboy Super Member

    You cannot guard using the material being machined!

    What happens if you get a kickback or it snatches! It disappears and you are left with nothing between you and the cutter/blade.

    What happens before or after the material is machined, exactly the same.

    You are 100% a poorly informed amateur who thinks they know better than professionals.

    I couldn't give a monkeys if you end up like the angry Peperami man with no arms or legs left.
     
  10. Ryluer

    Ryluer Well-Known Member

    Push pads! Not that I ever use them.
    Any rode you'd be a right silly billy to keep you hand inline with the cutter.
     
  11. goldenboy

    goldenboy Super Member

    You would be sacked by PopMaster if you ever started working in a proper workshop. Fool. and troll.
     
  12. Ryluer

    Ryluer Well-Known Member

    Last edited: Jul 12, 2015
  13. chippie244

    chippie244 Super Member

    Not much use if you're not a *
     
    Last edited by a moderator: Jul 13, 2015
  14. goldenboy

    goldenboy Super Member

    Looks like a nice bit of kit for the discerning home hobbyist. I will stick with the industrial kit thanks.
     
  15. Ryluer

    Ryluer Well-Known Member

    Or weekend warrior like me LoL.
     
  16. Ryluer

    Ryluer Well-Known Member

    You V Kris Reynolds goldy.
    I reckon he'd beat you hands down. What do you think? By the time you extracted your head from your butt he'd probably have half a dozen face frames made up.[​IMG]
     
  17. goldenboy

    goldenboy Super Member

    Kris Reynolds?? Never heard of her.

    But then again I don't have the time to be pretending to be a tradesman while watching Youtube 24/7 like you obviously do.
     
  18. Ryluer

    Ryluer Well-Known Member

    Festool have just launched the HK 85 carpenters saw which has an impressive 85mm depth of cut powered by a huge 2.3kw motor.
    But this is no ordinary saw as you can see from the image...
    [​IMG]
    A grooving cutter can be fitted that cuts grooves from 15-25mm thus making dado capability possible in this configuration.
     
    Last edited: Oct 3, 2015
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  19. joinerjohn1

    joinerjohn1 Screwfix Select

    The HK85 also requires the Festool conversion kit , to be used in a grooving configuration. Whilst in "grooving" mode, the blade is fully guarded. My Fessy TS55 can create grooves in timber (without expensive, conversion kits either).
     
  20. Ryluer

    Ryluer Well-Known Member

    The kit is supplied with the groove unit. £330 inc VAT.
    Yes it would be a pain having to change over all the time. But its still a neat option considering what it can do.
     

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