struggling to comply to new 17th edition

forget the rcds then ,do it the 16th way and note it as a departure.

 

do it for cash and take no notice

 

You won't need rcd for the light unless you're burying the cable in the wall.

 

17th edition is retrospective for RCD, you only need to note it on the minor works.

 

Just wack in a stand alone 30mA main switch before the old DB just like the cheapskates did on old TT instals and all will be well.


Bar any existing faults! :^O

 

17th edition is retrospective for RCD, you only need
to note it on the minor works.

Sorry but that's totally wrong.

 

forget the rcds then ,do it the 16th way and note it
as a departure.

So is that.

 

the way i see it (and napit) is that if you add to cableing on a light circuit i.e. switch drop in a wall then IT HAS to be RCD protected.

If you add to cabling and it is in a ceiling void or on the surface it does not need RCD protection.

Its rubbish about retrospective.

You change it then it has to be 17th

 

Its rubbish about retrospective<

I think Martynp meant to say it's NOT retrospective?

 

the way i see it (and napit) is that if you
add to cableing on a light circuit i.e. switch
drop in a wall then IT HAS to be RCD protected.

If you add to cabling and it is in a ceiling void or
on the surface it does not need RCD protection.

Its rubbish about retrospective.

You change it then it has to be 17th

Yup - give me a high 5.

And if you were had up in court over doing it any other way then it won't be no good telling the judge otherwise.

It's written down in clear text right in the front of the 17th regs.

 

so why would he state just note it down on minor cert.

 

You could always pretend it's replacing 'damaged' cable!

 

Taking each part one at a time.
you go to install an exterior light(ground floor lighting circuit)
RCD required if any part of cable run with wall
extra socket in bedroom ( upstairs socket circuit)
Fit a socket and it must be RCD protected
convert a ground floor switch to two way switching.
Unless on surface RCD required.

 

Just wack in a stand alone 30mA main switch before
the old DB just like the cheapskates did on old TT
instals and all will be well.


Bar any existing faults! :^O



There ya go then, all bases covered!


Bar existing faults! :^O

 

Sine, if people did not know you they may believe thats the way to go mate

 

Can't believe the amount of moaning thats taken place over the 17th edition. The same people were moaning about not having enough work and now the 17th has arrived we should all be thankful. I for one simple loving it. Cant wait for the 18th.

 

forget the rcds then ,do it the 16th way and note
it
[/i]as a departure.

So is that.

why? If the customer insists that they don't want all the extra expense of conforming to the 17th and as for it to be done to the 16th, then you would have to note it as a departure.

noticed an article in a nice newsletter from only a year ago ,explaining the correct use of rcd's DO NOT USE RCDs ON THE LIGHTING CIRCUITS it said

 

Why mess about with the 16th? Go with the 13th and you can forget about rcds, testing except for insulation etc.

Just note the departures...

If you think that's daft, so is going with the 16th.