Struggling to cut accurately with a Skill type saw.

Discussion in 'Carpenters' Talk' started by NT555, Nov 8, 2015.

  1. NT555

    NT555 Member

    Hi All,

    I have a Titan TTB287CSW 235mm for cutting up sheet materials but struggle to keep the blade & cuts accurate. I have been clamping a straight edge to the sheet and have been trying to keep the foot parallel to it but cannot. Using it freehand is better but still not as accurate as i'd like. On inspection the foot plate is not parallel to the blade. As you change the depth of cut the misalignment gets worse. There is no obvious way of correcting this problem with adjustment screws or anything thing else. The saw is about 3 years old and was about £80.00 and i'm now regretting buying it. (BTW: It's only now i'm using the saw more critically)
    The saw is still sold by SF: http://www.screwfix.com/p/titan-ttb287csw-235mm-circular-saw-230v/80063

    Should I dispose of the saw and bite the bullet and get a 'proper' one? So my questions are:

    1. Is there a way of fixing the saw?

    2. If not what make/model of saw would be recommended (bearing in mind it's only used for dimensioning 8'x4' sheets).

    3. I don't have much budget for a replacement saw..

    Any thoughts or comments would be appreciated.

    Cheers.
     
  2. tore81

    tore81 Screwfix Select

    I had the same problem! I was asked to make some cabinets and cut was off square or just wasn't cutting right.

    Very frustrating! Have you tried replacing the blade also setting a square on the rail to see if it's square.
     
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  3. CGN

    CGN Screwfix Select

    As tore said, square the blade up to the plate. You can usually do this if its got adjustment to cut mitres.

    May also benefit from a good quality blade
     
  4. KIAB

    KIAB Super Member

    Can't beat Freud blades for quailty, reliability & clean cutting.

    Bosch GKS 190 a darn good saw, around £105.

    Buy once, buy quailty, can be expensive, but it will last a lifetime, if you look after it.
     
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  5. tore81

    tore81 Screwfix Select

    I know you are saying you don't have the budget. But if your saw is cutting off square or rubbish cut. It is useless! It isn't fit for purpose your work will look poor. Not only that makes an easy job look hard. For me it was either spend another 200 on a saw that might do a job. Risk having to buy another again. Which ends up costing more in the long run. Believe me I have done this with numerous tools. I just save now for the right one.

    I was faced with the same scenario. Recently bought a festool. I'm confident now to cut any finished material smack on and the cut is great.
     
  6. NT555

    NT555 Member

    Hi Tore, I started measuring with a vernier gauge but the error was so big I used a combination square! Looking at the foot plate side(so holding the saw upside down)and measuring the distances on the opposite side to the motor:

    Front edge of the blade to the edge of the foot plate = 41mm
    Back edge of the blade to the edge of the foot plate = 44.5
     
  7. tore81

    tore81 Screwfix Select

    I would preferably use a carpenters square! You know a wooden edge. Normally faithfully.

    You can sit this on the body then, and see if it's the saw or the blade.

    Combination might not be accurate.
     
  8. tore81

    tore81 Screwfix Select

    Unless you mean the blade is not sitting square with the guard/body. As you say front and back.

    I thought you meant your bevel wasn't square.

    That is strange and can possibly dangerous as you are working against the material. Has it been hit or dropped?
     
  9. Mr. Handyandy

    Mr. Handyandy Screwfix Select

    You'd probably get a more accurate measurement if measuring from the blade across the wider part of the plate.
    Really, you just need to twist the plate and 3.5mm is not a lot.

    If you can hold the plate in a wide enough vice, then twist the whole saw body in the opposite direction to the twist, should do it. If it is held by rivets, once it is straight(thorough checking) you should tap the rivets tight again.

    More than likely just the angle adjuster holding it, which should be tightened before twisting.

    If you can wobble the plate when it is secure, then something is too loose, and if not sorted it might well be dangerous.

    Mr. HandyAndy - Really
     
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  10. chippie244

    chippie244 Super Member

    Hit it with a hammer.
     
  11. CGN

    CGN Screwfix Select

    I don't think Chippie meant with a regard to 'trueing' up the base plate! :D
     
  12. NT555

    NT555 Member

    I'll try the baseplate in the vice technique first thing. The baseplate is riveted so will need drilling to dissemble - which i'll do tomorrow. Using it up against a straight edge is indeed painful on the motor - as it's pinching as it cuts. Once i've pulled it apart i'll be able to hopefully clearly see if bits are twisted..

    Re the hammer: I have a selection of BFH's which i'm not afraid to use...

    I'll report back..
     
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  13. sospan

    sospan Screwfix Select

    If the edge of the base and the blade were out of true, the saw would be juddering a bit and you would have a very wide saw cut.

    I would make up something like this. The you can use something like a "speed" or roofing square on the back edge ensure 90 degrees to base.
    [​IMG]
     
  14. NT555

    NT555 Member

    Related issue: regarding the propriety track systems and plunge saws: I notice the longest tracks are 1600mm. If I could afford one, i'd want a 2440mm track (as well as a shorter one) but nobody seems to do 2.4m ones and i wonder why not?
     
  15. chippie244

    chippie244 Super Member

    Festool do a 3M one.
     
  16. KIAB

    KIAB Super Member

    Because they come in two pieces, Festool track come in eight different lengths, allowing you any length guide rail from 800mm- 5mtrs or so to be made up.
     
  17. malkie129

    malkie129 Screwfix Select

    Not wishing to sound rude & not knowing what combination square is being used, I would bet on my Moore & Wright square being more accurate than any carpenters square. ;)
     
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  18. KIAB

    KIAB Super Member

    M&W Engineering square has a fixed riveted blade, so will be far more accurate than any adjustable combination square.
    Sadly now , a lot of M&W I think is now made in China, I have a Mitutoyo Engineers Precision Square I use for woodworking,cost about £25, but worth it.
     
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  19. NT555

    NT555 Member

    Many thanks for the info. I couldn't see it in the Axminster catalogue so thought there wasn't one.
     
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  20. KIAB

    KIAB Super Member

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