Tiling project.

Discussion in 'Kitchen Fitters' Talk' started by tore81, Apr 26, 2017.

  1. tore81

    tore81 Screwfix Select

    Starting a tiling project soon. Hoping to get some advice as I haven't done big areas. Looking at using big tiles.

    I have dry lined the walls where I'm pretty plesased they have come out square where the tray will sit. Although further there is a dip in ward up to 3mm. Like a hollow.

    I'm not sure if the boards were made like that, I've manage to get the PB level and square where the tiles will sit onto the shower tray.

    Wanting to use large tiles, does this make any difference to imperfections in flatness surely I just add more adhesive to where it's uneven?

    looking to use the spacers that can be packed out to level. Not sure the name but I believe Knauf do them which is a levelling system. Using a wedge type effect which I like the look of.

    Also setting out there is a bath in the room and a window. What's the best Datam point to run to? Would I come directly off the shower tray? Any tips for making it look visually pleasing. Do I also need to prime the boards before the tiling have used green PB

    Apologies for the many questions, even one question answered will be knowledge gained .
     
  2. spen123

    spen123 Screwfix Select

    The spacers are great but you do need a tool with them. I'd try and go for a good make and make sure you can buy the spacers separately otherwise you'd be left with a bunch of useless wedges. Regards to a datam point for the bath I'd say it depends on the tiles. You don't want a small cut on the bath but neither do want to start from the bath and end up with a small cut on the tray. Neither do want small cuts at the top or the bottoms of the walls.
     
  3. longboat

    longboat Screwfix Select

    How big are the tiles?
    If you can start with a full tile on top of the bath it will make things easier, but it all depends on the height from the bath to the ceiling, door frames, window, shower tray and floor.
    The aim is to eliminate any small slithers of tile. It isn't always possible and you may have to compromise here and there.
     
  4. DIYDave.

    DIYDave. Screwfix Select

    Large format tiles are much less forgiving on uneven walls so watch out closely as your tiling to avoid any 'lipage' (where a tile sits higher or lower than surrounding tiles and the edges show)

    For small dips yeah sure just build up with extra adhesive. Go over the wall first with a long straight edge and pencil mark any potential problem areas. Just add a bit more addy here and trowel flat with ur notched spreader. Visual check as you lay the tiles, much easier to correct any problems now than when bonded to the wall

    What size tiles and what they made of. May well be advised to use a powdered bagged adhesive rather than a ready mix tub. Also one suitable for wet areas, top quality with all materials, including grout - don't go cheap and compromise the job

    As wet areas, your gonna hear about using a cement board instead of PB, even moisture resistant 'green' . Loads of info on this forum if you search. PB and/or tile backer board requires no priming

    Plaster does need priming before tiling using SBR primer (don't even suggest PVA) :eek: !!

    Good luck and as above, a good tiling job needs careful planning and measuring before you even lay a single tile - invest your time at this stage and know where your cut tiles are gonna fall
     
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  5. Mr Rusty

    Mr Rusty Screwfix Select

    Not wishing to give you hassle, but personally I wouldn't fit large format tiles onto plasterboard in a shower. The weight of large format tiles, particularly with thick adhesive is very close if not above the weight carrying ability of plasterboard. The slightest leak in your grout and the plasterboard will degrade, and believe me, once you have installed large-format and realised how heavy they are, you won't want them dropping off!!. https://www.tiles.org.uk/services/frequently-asked-questions/#16

    Use a high quality bagged adhesive - shop around and don't buy it from e.g. the big yellow shed unless you want to pay £££££££s

    If using small format, IMO you can get away with PB in a shower if tanked. Large format, I'd replace that PB with a concrete board - tilebakker, hardieboard

    Every house I've lived in I've had to replace shower tiling because of poor substrate.

    My tip for large format - get a long very straight edge. Get that first tile on and use the straight edge to check the adhesive depths across the wall. You can possibly get away with a slight curve in one plane, but humps and hollows are difficult. "lippage" looks awful and large-format is not forgiving. Also, if the tiles are shiny, they look bad if the reflections are all over the place!
     

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