Unsupported Oak

Discussion in 'Kitchen Fitters' Talk' started by Rossie, Aug 24, 2015.

  1. Rossie

    Rossie New Member

    Hi Guys,

    I'm just working on a breakfast bar which has two 300 base units either side then 1020mm of solid oak in the middle for knee space, magnet have supplied a leg to go in the middle but by customer really doesn't want it there.

    Does anyone think this will be a problem over time?

    Many Thanks

    Rossie
     
  2. Phil the Paver

    Phil the Paver Screwfix Select

    How thick is the oak, just over a metre isn't really a big gap, so if the oak is thick, it shouldn't be a problem.
     
  3. Rossie

    Rossie New Member

    Thanks Phil, its 40mm so hopefully it shouldn't be a problem. Just didn't want any come backs in years to come.
     
  4. Presumably there is a supporting rail along the back wall (presumably there is a back wall!)?

    In which case it should be 'ok', but will also likely bow a small amount.

    I think you should explain to the customer that - in your judgement only - it 'should' be ok, but is clearly not recommended as Magnet provided a supporting 'leg'.

    After all, neither Magnet or yourself will have any control over how that worktop is treated in future; whether 'kitchen party-goers' make it a habit of sitting on that unsupported section, for instance. Therefore, although it 'should' be fine, and you are happy to do as the customer requests, they should acknowledge that this part is accepted as being 'at their risk'.

    If you really want to cover yourself, make sure your final invoice also includes that proviso.

    Perhaps you could also add that if they monitor the worktop and let you know immediately if there's any sign of bowing, you are happy to come back and fit that leg FOC. But only if they inform you before it becomes a serious issue that'll be hard to resolve.

    Also make sure they acknowledge that Magnet will not warrant that length of worktop should it bow.
     
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  5. KIAB

    KIAB Super Member

    Had a similar set up in the craft room at last place, worktop is beech though, it's sat on units with 1050mm opening between units, I screwed two lengths of 4mm or 5mm flat bar 40mm wide to the underside of the worktop over the opening, never bowed in 5 years.
     
  6. metrokitchens

    metrokitchens Screwfix Select

    40mm solid oak over a 1M span. Relax, that aint gonna bow.
     
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  7. Phil the Paver

    Phil the Paver Screwfix Select


    Exactly, and if it does, it ain't oak.:D:D
     
  8. Mr. Handyandy

    Mr. Handyandy Screwfix Select

    I would suggest fitting a 3"x1" across the centre as an upstand support from unit to unit. One thing against the span is not having the worktop longer than 350mm after the span, so there is no long run keeping the outer ends down.
    (Assuming this is an island!) If it's not an island, scratch that.

    Mr. HandyAndy - Really
     
  9. chippie244

    chippie244 Super Member

    According to calculations a 300kg load placed in the middle of the span will cause it to deflect by less than 0.5mm.
     
  10. Phil the Paver

    Phil the Paver Screwfix Select


    So no fat birds allowed at parties. :D:D
     
  11. chippie244

    chippie244 Super Member

    Fat birds would spread the load so deflection of only 0.2mm and 300Kg is really fat so doubt they could get on the worktop in the first place. :p:p
     
  12. Ryluer

    Ryluer Well-Known Member

    Just hit the trail and never look back.
     

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