UPVC Door problem

Discussion in 'Other Trades Talk' started by koolpc, Jun 19, 2017.

  1. koolpc

    koolpc Super Member

    Old back kitchen door. Very hard to lock / unlock door. We replaced barrel about 5 months ago.

    Lock works great when door open! lol

    Close the door, engage it and only way to lock / unlock is to lift door!

    When door open i cannot see any drop in the door.

    I drilled the plastic in the frame to open it up thinking it was not big enough but still the same issue!

    Help!

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  2. KIAB

    KIAB Super Member

    Any drop in the lock plates.
     
  3. Jord86

    Jord86 Screwfix Select

    You won't really see the drop in the door when open, it's closed when it should show. Does the corner of the door line up with the centre of the welds at the mitre joint on the frame? Any problems opening and closing the door I.e. catching on frame?
     
  4. Astramax

    Astramax Super Member

    Check if something is blocking the locking plates from engaging as I have had that happen. :cool:
     
  5. koolpc

    koolpc Super Member

    Locking plates?
     
  6. Joe95

    Joe95 Screwfix Select

    The bit the latch and lock 'sits' in - it's in the frame.


    And is it a multipoint lock? Sometimes a screw can come loose in the catches and makes the door hard to shut.
     
  7. KIAB

    KIAB Super Member

    They work loose & can drop, making it hard to operate the 3 point locking to lock door.
     

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  8. Mr. Handyandy

    Mr. Handyandy Screwfix Select

    Try adjusting the rollers that engage the spags. If you push the door hard while trying to lock it, is it easier?
    If so, the rollers can be turned to help pull the door in more when turning handle upwards.
     
  9. koolpc

    koolpc Super Member

    Only by lifting handle can i lock / unlock door
     
  10. DIYDave.

    DIYDave. Screwfix Select

    Is this is recent problem kools and does the sun hit this door

    With the recent hot sunny weather, upvc can and does move and expand / contact, leading to this kinda problem. Any easier to lock in cooler weather ?

    Other than that, some adjustment is needed, but you have to work out if it's up / down / in or out / or a combination

    Looks like Allen key job on hinges to wind up/ down
     
  11. koolpc

    koolpc Super Member

    3 point locking is fine. Its when i try to turn the key in the lock while door closed that i have to lift on the handle to get the key to turn.
     
  12. longboat

    longboat Screwfix Select

    Mine do that too.:rolleyes:
     
  13. Mr. Handyandy

    Mr. Handyandy Screwfix Select


    Lifting the handle pulls the door in tighter. Adjusting the rollers may do that for you. The rollers are eccentric, so turning them will slightly adjust how tight the door is pulled in.
     
  14. Rulland

    Rulland Screwfix Select

    My front door was exactly the same, a real pain to lock in hot weather, you had to physically lift the door slightly using the handle, in the end I basically just put packers/washers over the hinge pins to lift it.
    Locks nice n easy now in all weathers:)
     
  15. koolpc

    koolpc Super Member

    Really!! :rolleyes:

    I have to 'Lift' the handle / door!! :rolleyes::rolleyes:
     
  16. koolpc

    koolpc Super Member

    Its not the tightness that is the issue but the fact that i have to lift the door, via the handle, for the key to tun.
     
  17. Mr. Handyandy

    Mr. Handyandy Screwfix Select


    You have to satisfy yourself that it is the lifting of the door that makes it easier to lock, or the extra force on the handle turning upwards that makes it easier to lock.
     
  18. longboat

    longboat Screwfix Select

    Sorry, kools. I thought you were either on a wind up or had gone a bit senile.:p

    When you say you have to lift the 'door', does the frame of the door actually move at all?
    Does the frame pivot on the hinges, or does the whole thing lift-as-a-unit when you try this?
     
  19. DIYDave.

    DIYDave. Screwfix Select

    Try height adjustment via the hinges - easy enough to do

    Also, is it a solid door or with panels, be it glass or composite panel/s

    If panels, may also need 'toe and heeling'
     
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