Warm roof, insulation, vapour barrier

Discussion in 'Builders' Talk' started by beeboss, Feb 10, 2016.

  1. beeboss

    beeboss New Member

    Hi,
    I have a warm flat roof (with a vapour barrier and insulation above that) on my new extension. I am just getting round to plasterboard the room and I am wondering what to do about adding additional insulation underneath the joists. I understand that normally it isn't a good idea to insulate here because moisture may condense and potentially cause the roof joists to rot, but I really want to have some sound insulation in here because my extension is for music and it is very bad acoustically to have an undamped resonant chamber at the top of the room. With this in mind I am wondering whether I can have a secondary vapour barrier (say some heavy duty polythene stapled underneath the joists directly above the plasterboard I am about to put up) and some additional rock wool insulation underneath the joists or if that is a really bad idea?
     
  2. BMC2000

    BMC2000 Screwfix Select

    You'd want to be careful but if you have over 100mm above your deck you could go 50mm or less of mineral wool. No additional vapour control layer required.
    Just run the proposal past your insulation board tech department to determine Condensation risk properly
     
  3. beeboss

    beeboss New Member

    Thanks for your reply. I think it was 140mm of celotex on the top.
    But it can't do any harm to have an additional vapour layer underneath the joists can it?
    50mm of mineral should be enough to damp some resonances, the joists are 8 inch.
     
  4. BMC2000

    BMC2000 Screwfix Select

    You could hold the migrating vapour back in two locations and cause interstitial Condensation. Warm roof design needs one layer of vapour control only placed directly beneath the insulation only.
     
  5. beeboss

    beeboss New Member

    Thanks, it sounds like I don't want to cause any interstitial condensation so I will give up the idea of a 2nd vapour barrier. But will 50mm of mineral wool cause significant condensation?
     
  6. BMC2000

    BMC2000 Screwfix Select

    Re-read my first post, it's all there
     
  7. beeboss

    beeboss New Member

    Got it, thanks.
     
  8. In a nutshell you never have insulation within the joists with a warm roof - insulation above joists only.

    You never ventilate a warm roof.

    Read the BS
     

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