worktop join with "diy" router?

Discussion in 'Kitchen Fitters' Talk' started by Rob_egg, Mar 17, 2017.

  1. Rob_egg

    Rob_egg New Member

    Hi folks,

    I am hoping someone can help please...

    I am an amateur fitting my own kitchen and all going well so far. However, I have got to the worktop join and I have come unstuck I think. I am joining two Corian (B&Q earthstone) worktops together at 90 degrees to one another, as per standard.

    However, my router is a 1/4" inch one (I've had it about a year and when I purchased it, I didn't realise I should have gone for a 1/2" router). Everything I have read online says I can't use it with a worktop joining jig?

    The router is a Bosch POF 1400 ACE.

    The worktop jig I'd like to purchase is something like this:
    http://www.screwfix.com/p/trend-616mm-worktop-jig/11267

    Is it possible with my router?!

    Thanks!

    Rob.
     
  2. candoabitofmoststuff

    candoabitofmoststuff Screwfix Select

    Probably not possible because you probably can't get the router bit to safely extend far enough to cut all the way through the top.
    And you'll need the right size follower bush, and I'm not sure these are available for 1/4" routers, (though I'm open to correction)

    If you can, then you will have to take lots , (8 -10), of very shallow passes.

    Do a practise joint on offcuts first.

    If it doesn't work then either get a pro in to do it, or...

    Assuming your kitchen has cost a couple of thousand or more, the cost of a 1/2" router isn't too significant;

    http://www.screwfix.com/c/tools/routers/cat830904#category=cat830912

    For a one off job maybe the cheapest here is appropriate?

    I'm DIY and did my own a couple of years ago... with a 1/2" one. Good luck!

    Regards,
    Cando
     
  3. Rob_egg

    Rob_egg New Member

    Thanks Cando!

    Getting through the thickness of the worktop is not a problem, even with the thickness of the jig. I have done some other cuts already and that bit is fine.

    But I think you may be right on the follower/guide bush.

    Does anyone know if I can get the appropriate 1/4" one for use with this jig?

    Thanks all!
     
  4. CGN

    CGN Screwfix Select

    You need a 30mm guide bush and 12.7mm cutter.

    You may get away with it...but as Cando says, lots of shallow passes, finishing off with a final full depth pass after you've made the final plunge cut. I prob do a max of 3 joints with a new cutter then sling it in the bin. Always cut female first...male may need scribing if corner out of square and always go into the laminate front edge.
     
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  5. Rob_egg

    Rob_egg New Member

    Thanks CGN! Do you think I'll find a 1/4" 30mm guide bush?
     
  6. CGN

    CGN Screwfix Select

    The guide bush isn't 1/4", you just need a 30mm bush that will fit on your router base, usually 2 Philips head screws :)
     
  7. P. Gee

    P. Gee Active Member

    Personally I would say use the right tool for the job, even a very cheap half inch router will do.
     
  8. KIAB

    KIAB Super Member

    Go & hire a 1/2" router for a day or weekend.
     
  9. Mr Rusty

    Mr Rusty Screwfix Select

    Your worktop will be costing several hundred £££. Spend £100 on a 1/2" router and the correct 12.7mm cutter - they often come in sets 'cos they don't last so long.

    If you are going to do more in the future get the best you can. If not spend £100 and get this http://www.screwfix.com/p/erbauer-erb380rou-2100w-router-230-240v/81664

    BTW, I also have a 1/4" bosch which I've had for near 20 years, and for some jobs it's still the best tool - like trimming.
     
  10. Rob_egg

    Rob_egg New Member

  11. KIAB

    KIAB Super Member

  12. Mr Rusty

    Mr Rusty Screwfix Select

    do try and cut a practice joint, and make sure you feed the router the correct way to avoid breaking out the face. takes a bit of thinking through whether you are face up or down. Hopefully it comes with instructions, if not watch some vids and do some googling first!
     
  13. candoabitofmoststuff

    candoabitofmoststuff Screwfix Select

    Make sure you get the transformer... It's a good deal, but looks like a 110V unit... And you'll probably need to buy the cutters I would think.

    Regards
    Cando
     
  14. sospan

    sospan Screwfix Select

    Get a proper kitchen fitter in.

    For the cost of hiring all the tools, the chance of ruining some expensive tops, having your partner moan at you for not doing a good job or wrecking a unit, trying to learn a skill that you won't use for a while. bite the bullet and get a specialist in.
     
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  15. candoabitofmoststuff

    candoabitofmoststuff Screwfix Select

    Something else to beware of...
    Get some help! You wont be able to do this without another pair of hands.

    And think about how you are going to handle to worktop if/when it has cutouts for sink and hob. When these holes are there it will be lighter... but much weaker and susceptible to breaking. You might be able to cut these holes in situ, but keep your options open and plan the steps, and order of them, properly.

    Regards,

    Cando
     
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  16. Rob_egg

    Rob_egg New Member

    Cando - thanks for the tips!

    Sospan - where the sense of achievement in that?
     
  17. chippie244

    chippie244 Super Member

    No.
     
  18. CGN

    CGN Screwfix Select

    The sense of achievement quickly goes by the by when you have mountains to move (and expensive worktops), but seriously, have a go. I taught myself, after doing plenty of research. It's not hard, but I had plenty of 'cheap' worktops to practice on in rental properties.
    The proper gear helps..but more importantly is a good eye and the old adage...'measure twice, cut once!'
    As long as you understand the process, you're 85% there, the rest is down to a bit of common sense and experience...and a sharp router bit :)
     
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  19. CGN

    CGN Screwfix Select

    Oh, if you have a long length of worktop with a hob/sink cutout in the middle, carry it on its edge, or better still, drill corners, jigsaw out to almost the holes, then put in plzce, then finish jigsawing out the cutout.
     
  20. sospan

    sospan Screwfix Select

    Like most things in life, you have to sit back and think what is practical and value for money. This is a skill that you are probably going to use rarely, so not much point investing time and money with the potential to ruin some expensive materials. Get a pro in and if you want, watch how it is done.

    At the end of the day the objective is to get some worktops fitted with excellent joints rather than get a sense of achivement
     
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