World Security 1946 to date

Discussion in 'Just Talk' started by PaulBlackpool, May 16, 2015.

  1. PaulBlackpool

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    I was born in 1946. Four days after my 16th birthday the Cuban Missile Crisis began. For younger forum members, most of you I suppose, this was caused by Fidel Castro of Communist Cuba allowing his allies, the USSR ( Union of Soviet Socialist Republics) to establish missile launching sites in Cuba 90 miles away from Florida coast. It played out on television worldwide and was the closest the Cold War came to escalating into a full-scale nuclear war. The Americans tracked ships crossing the Atlantic carrying missiles.
    President Kennedy told Soviet Secretary General Khrushchev that the US would not allow the missiles to reach Cuba. One night we all went to bed not knowing whether we would all be alive the following morning.
    I woke up in Blackpool went into my brothers' bedroom which faced east and looked south east to see whether there was a mushroom cloud over Manchester fifty miles away.
    I suppose the world is a safer place today, or is it?
     
  2. tom.plum

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    I remember those bleak days too Paul, although i can't remember how young i was but I remember it because my mum n' dad were talking about it and it scared me, I believe it will happen one day, as murphys law says " if its possible for a thing to happen, it will" and anyway, there are too many humans on the planet now, we seem to curing all the diseases which cull us in natural ways but we will never stop wars, I just hope I get to heaven before the devil knows I'm dead,
     
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  3. The missile crises was stopped just in time because there was still a touch or rationality in the key players - they knew what the consequences would be and that they'd all lose out massively.

    Not the case with fruit cakes like ISIS - they are making gains into Iraq and Syria by sending in suicide bombers. Happy to go to 'heaven'.

    Give them access to a nuke and I doubt they'd hesitate.
     
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  4. tom.plum

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    and one day they will get them :(
     
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  5. Phil the Paver

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    The amount of money ISIS have, some bloody idiot out there will sell them the materials required to make themselves a nuke or two.
     
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  6. PaulBlackpool

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    Agree with all the above but what threat does Putin pose to the UK?
     
  7. chippie244

    chippie244 Super Member

    The cold war is still going on, it's about economics and power, communism v capitalism, yanks v russkis. Who's got the biggest balls.
    The Chinese don't care, they will sell their cheap tat to whoever will buy it.
     
  8. PaulBlackpool

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    Yeah. You are not wrong but the GDP of Russia is less than California. Having said that they probably spend half of that on armaments!:)
     
  9. chippie244

    chippie244 Super Member

    The official GDP...
     
  10. PaulBlackpool

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    Yes I was forgetting the Russian Mafia. Good point
     
  11. I'm afraid our planet is full of bludy loons.

    And when they're not on here they can cause all sorts of trouble...
     
  12. tom.plum

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    have to agree on that Mr Devs, We as humans make rules for each other, for gain, profit and power, in nature were no form of learning is forced upon animals and plants, things get along famously, no skools,no rules,no regulations, just do or die instincts from nature
     
  13. goldenboy

    goldenboy Super Member

    Putin is determined to go down in the same position in history as Lenin and Stalin. He wants to rebuild the Soviet empire and I for one don't actually think that a strong Russia is bad for the world.
     
  14. PaulBlackpool

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    If you lived in Lithuania, Latvia or Estonia and were not of Russian extraction you would not be saying that but do you mean that two global superpowers tend to balance each other out as the have done in the Cold War?
    You could infer from your post that American and European influence is as bad as Russian. It might have been in Ukraine. I have always thought that a strong Europe was a buffer between Russia and the USA.
    There again I think world peace would today be served better by Russia somehow being in the EU as it is geographically in Europe west of the Urals. It might not be a good thing financially though for us!
     
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  15. joinerjohn1

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    Perhaps a good enough reason to nuke em out of existence before they get one then? ;);)
     
  16. PaulBlackpool

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    Would that stop them all though?:):) They are all over the place.
    If you haven't seen the 1964 black and white film "Dr. Stranglove" , a very black comedy staring Peter Sellers in 4 different roles I would recommend it.
     
  17. PaulBlackpool

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    I agree with your sentiments Tom except some animals do live under some form of hierarchy even bees and ants.
    I think we live by the law of the jungle just the same as the other animals in it.
    It is dog eat dog in the construction industry.
     
  18. Oh dear, gb. Putin's Russia is a hellish place - it's an affront to democracy, fairness, human rights, dignity, decency and everything else the human race should be entitled to. What we should all be striving for.

    I have to say, I do keep telling my own kids how bludy lucky we - they - are to live in good ol' Blighty.

    This is a fab country, folks. It really is.

    (Although there is undoubtedly a lot still wrong with it...)
     
  19. PaulBlackpool

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    This royal throne of kings, this sceptred isle,
    This earth of majesty, this seat of Mars,
    This other Eden, demi-paradise,
    This fortress built by Nature for herself
    Against infection and the hand of war,
    This happy breed of men, this little world,
    This precious stone set in the silver sea,
    Which serves it in the office of a wall
    Or as a moat defensive to a house,
    Against the envy of less happier lands,
    This blessed plot, this earth, this realm, this England.

    (Extract of one of John O' Gaunt's speeches from Richard the Second by William Shakespeare)
     
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