Woodworking machinery safety

Discussion in 'Carpenters' Talk' started by aarrttyy, Oct 6, 2018.

  1. AlvyChippy

    AlvyChippy Active Member

    Every single bloody time, just about to go to sleep, something must come up in absolute need of clarification...

    Simple sole trader insurance would be £50
    I end up paying £400 odd to cover every single possible scenario.

    Anyone, would try to get an honest quote from fresh, for a proper insurance policy would end up having meltdown on factors as how it is.
    For better or worse, bravado in being negligent will end up biting on the **** eventually, so being sensible about precautions is sensible...
     
  2. AlvyChippy

    AlvyChippy Active Member

    Clever man ;) (likely to be covered by insurance policy)
     
  3. goldenboy

    goldenboy Super Member

    No they are not.

    In my workshop I can do whatever I like.

    Out of my workshop it is a different matter.

    In the workshop I can take every guard off, I can rebate on an open surface planer, anything.

    HSE view is that if you are self employed and your work doesn't put the public at risk or other workers you aren't covered by Health and Safety.

    Same with Fire Regs and fire escapes etc. Sole Traders can do whatever they like in private premises.
     
  4. goldenboy

    goldenboy Super Member

    We are talking about workshops here, not out fitting.

    Private premise, no employees. Not covered by any regs.

    Not even PAT testing.
     
  5. goldenboy

    goldenboy Super Member

    What a waste of time.
     
  6. chippie244

    chippie244 Super Member

    Completly, he was very anal
     
  7. goldenboy

    goldenboy Super Member

    I know your neck of the woods a little. Name wasn't Wally was it? Big Rangers fan from Ayr originally? Sounds like him!
     
  8. chippie244

    chippie244 Super Member

    No, a magician, set builder and hoarder.
     
  9. goldenboy

    goldenboy Super Member

    First workshop I worked at in St Albans got took over by two chaps from Hertford way. Vic and Wally. He sounded like just the kind of chap who would do that! I think they eventually closed that workshop down and re-opened in Baldock.

    I left after a while and went to a kitchen manufacturers between Harpenden and Luton and eventually ended up at a firm up in Leagrave.
     
  10. chippie244

    chippie244 Super Member

    Luton, awful, I get depressed just driving through it.
    I'm in St Albans for the next two days then Welwyn, Cambridge and Ware.
     
  11. goldenboy

    goldenboy Super Member

    Its an awful place.

    Met a mate off a plane at the airport once.

    Got stuck into a few at a bar at one of the hotels there.

    He suggested we get a cab to the "old town" to find a traditional pub.

    I couldn't stop laughing for ages.
     
  12. chippie244

    chippie244 Super Member

    My SAT nav setting is "avoiding Luton"
     
  13. joinerjohn1

    joinerjohn1 Screwfix Select

    And what if a visitor to your workshop was injured ? Who do you think the HSE would prosecute ?
     
  14. chippie244

    chippie244 Super Member

    Do keep up JJ. o_O
     
  15. joinerjohn1

    joinerjohn1 Screwfix Select

    I have kept up chip. What if a visitor to his workshop was injured? ( or perhaps he doesn’t have any visitors) Heck, what if GB happened to have a serious accident, alone in his workshop ? If he did and was saved, by some miracle, I’m sure the HSE would investigate.
     
  16. goldenboy

    goldenboy Super Member

    That is a totally separate issued to being covered by HSE regulations as a sole trader.
     
  17. AlvyChippy

    AlvyChippy Active Member

    Initial OP question was about a workshop of somebody's, kill switch etc ;)
     
  18. goldenboy

    goldenboy Super Member

    So?

    Are you meant to rigidly adhere to the exact OPs question?

    Conversations evolve.

    I said Health and Safety don't involve themselves in sole trader workshops.

    JJ thinks they do.
     
  19. chippie244

    chippie244 Super Member

    You tried to say that all woodworking machinery should be 110V :eek::eek:
     
  20. goldenboy

    goldenboy Super Member

    I did try plugging my three phase panel saw into a transformer. It didn't really work.
     

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