Knives

Discussion in 'Just Talk' started by Harry Stottle, Mar 3, 2019.

  1. Heat

    Heat Screwfix Select

    I didn’t say I have no beliefs, - I don’t go to church, but that doesn’t mean I think morals and Christian values are unimportant.
     
  2. chippie244

    chippie244 Super Member

    How do you think christianity will stop knife crime when you say you aren't religious yourself?
     
  3. Heat

    Heat Screwfix Select

    I think you know my point.
    Bringing kids up, (including when they get into young adults), to respect other people and definitely not wish murder on anyone.
    I know my parents would have instilled this into me.
    I don’t think we are born full of morals.
    I am sure many of the parents of the knife killers are decent good parents, but their child has somehow became part of this knife culture.
    But the numbers involved clearly shows there is a growing problem.
    Looks like many victims are easy targets and not involved in fighting, which is worrying
     
  4. chippie244

    chippie244 Super Member

    That has nothing to do with religion that's about good parenting.
     
  5. Heat

    Heat Screwfix Select

    Morals and religion link can be relevant though.
    I would be reluctant to kill anyone, unless in self defence, because I would feel guilt, partly due to my religious background and partly to upbringing by my parents I reckon.
    Something is missing from some people in society
     
  6. chippie244

    chippie244 Super Member

    You can have morals and ethics without religion and you can be religious without morals or ethics.
    Bringing religion into a debate about current knife crime is about as relevant as blaming Tony Blair but the hard of thinking on here have tried to do both.
     
  7. longboat

    longboat Screwfix Select

    As we can see 'yet again', they do tend to back you into a corner.
    And we all know the predictable outcome that you've unwittingly demonstrated for us once more.
    I'm sure it won't be the last.
     
  8. Jimmycloutnail

    Jimmycloutnail Screwfix Select

    I wish my parents gave me a phone to watch porn on :).

    There’s plenty of violence in the many of religious works of fiction
     
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  9. chippie244

    chippie244 Super Member

    Do you want to try to explain this drivel or what it has to do with knife crime?
     
  10. longboat

    longboat Screwfix Select

    LOL. Can your hypocrisy delve any deeper, chip's?
    Surely not!
     
  11. chippie244

    chippie244 Super Member

    I take it that you aren't going to explain what you are on about?
    I can only presume that drink has been taken :)
     
  12. chippie244

    chippie244 Super Member

    Well it looks like my stalker has decided to sleep it off :):)
     
  13. Bob Rathbone

    Bob Rathbone Screwfix Select

    Gringo, where do you get these statistics? are they fed to you from the pulpit? I accept that you have your faith and that it is precious to you, I would not try to convince you otherwise. I do agree that those who attend your Church will be given the moral guidance that you say is lacking in society as a whole, but are you suggesting compulsory Church attendance.
    It is those who do not attend such Churches to receive moral guidance, that we need to reach, I am suggesting that other societies, groups and institutions should be encouraged to offer similar moral guidance to our young, and perhaps their parents. Moral guidance is not the exclusive domain of the Church, it is for us all to give to our young. Please explain your fixation with bad behaviour and 'The Liberals'. That is a statement that I would expect to hear from the good old USA.
     
  14. Harry Stottle

    Harry Stottle Screwfix Select

    Hey Bob, I think Gringo is referring to liberal thinkers, not the Liberal party. I do believe that the breakdown of families has a lot to do with young people's bad behaviour and the frothy brained attitude of liberal thinkers doesn't help.
     
  15. chippie244

    chippie244 Super Member

    Who broke down families and what frothy brained attitude are you talking about?
     
  16. gas monkey

    gas monkey Well-Known Member

    lazy/tolerant, this morning watch a program were a dad had his 6 yr old pinched by a pedo and decapetated took hom 27 yrs to find out due to the incopetence of the police
    he now tracks down people like this he is no longer tolerant/lazy
    so if we all stopped being tolerant letting standards drop bit by bit then things woukd no go pear shaped
    apart from the mentaly ill another story
     
  17. chippie244

    chippie244 Super Member

    So not being a vigilante causes knife crime?
     
  18. chippie244

    chippie244 Super Member

  19. Jimmycloutnail

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  20. chippie244

    chippie244 Super Member

    Wait till the loonies come out tonight and it will be atheists, immigrants and single mother's fault, and let's not forget Tony Blair.
     

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