Hi all, any comments welcome on this one. Is it still acceptable to have a socket outlet for a specific use not rcd protected under the 18th? I fitted a single 13a socket outlet recently in a loft space for one of my regular customers, it is to supply a security camera system and the suppliers asked for a socket to be provided. It is supplied from the first floor lighting circuit which doesn't have rcd protection. (16th. ed. board) There is not the slightest chance of the socket being used to supply anything else and I would like to issue a mwc stating that the socket is only to be used for this specific purpose. If it's a major issue I could get back to the customer and arrange to fit an rcbo but I don't really think that is necessary?
Good thinking Gas Monkey, I never even gave that a thought, don't know why as I've fitted several of those recently!
No exception now in a house, even for a piece of dedicated equipment,all must be RCD protected up to 32amp.
Surely, the RCD on lighting circuits applies to new circuits. So why would adding an extra fitting to the existing circuit require an RCD.
It really gets my goat when he professes to be so perfect, then gives useless information and thinks he is helping. Kind regards
As Deleted member 11267 said there is no exception for a domestic property regardless of what its being used for or if its accesible or not. Simpliest solution is to fit an RCD socket as Gas monkey said The regs don't only apply to new circuits, they apply to any new wiring and installation of new equipment. If you were to remove a centre light and install downlights in a room they would require RCD protection as you are adding in new lights and cabling. If you are taking down a centre light and replacing it with a new one then that's maintenance and wouldn't need an RCD.
Just another pointless rule that otherwise unemployable people dream up to keep themselves in non jobs.
Well, can you helpfully point us to the specific regulations so we can all learn. So the next time Mrs McTumpshie asks for an additional light in her bungalow I'll be able to show her the regulation that requires me to replace her perfectly serviceable Wylex fuseboard with a shiny new bit of tat with an RCD. The logic of what you are saying that no circuit in a domestic premises can now be altered unless it has RCD protection. Good luck with flogging that one to your customers. PS I did my 18th nearly a year ago so thankfully, forgotten most of it
411.3.4 im not trying to "flog" anything to my customers its simply a case of the new regulations requiring RCD protection to just about all circuits in a domestic property now. Maybe you should go back and re-do it then.
If you altered an existing cooker circuit that doesn't need or have an RCD and the bit you installed was buried then you would have to RCD that circuit. Using the same logic, if you altered a lighting circuit that didn't involve burying any cables you would still have to RCD it because all lighting circuits now need RCD protection. That's if you always do as you are told of course.
Was thinking of doing the 18 th but from a bit of looking 62 pages and only lightning and a risk assessment is it worth it thoughts
Its never worth it, not unless you are a bookworm that likes flushing hundreds of pounds down the toilet every few years.