Socket problem

Discussion in 'Electricians' Talk' started by bobby g, Dec 11, 2007.

  1. bobby g

    bobby g New Member

    I am replacing socket fronts in my house and I have found something a bit strange.

    They previous owner installed a boiler just before I moved in and he has taken the feed from one of the double sockets in the living room.

    The problem is..the cable he has used is 1.5 ( and not the 2.5 on the ring ). This feeds the boiler switch in the kitchen, which is however a single socket which I have been using to run the fridge / freezer and boiler.

    What of the above is wrong and how do I fix it.

    ( I was thinking of making it a fused spur at the living room. Change the single socket at the boiler to a double pole switch for only the boiler and run the fridge / freezer from another point. Would this do it )

    thanks
     
  2. JP.

    JP. Screwfix Select

    Think that will invoke some interesting replies Bobby.
     
  3. jimmythemap

    jimmythemap New Member

  4. ban-all-sheds

    ban-all-sheds New Member

    I'm a bit confused by this:
     
  5. bobby g

    bobby g New Member

    the boiler is on a plug which is plugged into an adaptor along with the fridge and the freezer, which is plugged into the single socket.

    this single socket is in 1.5 cable on a spur from the house ring.

    hope that explains it more

    so what can I do to sort this out

    thanks
     
  6. Fanny mcSquirter

    Fanny mcSquirter New Member

    the boiler is on a plug which is plugged into an
    adaptor along with the fridge and the freezer, which
    is plugged into the single socket.

    this single socket is in 1.5 cable on a spur from the
    house ring.

    Me thinks someone's on a wind-up mission. Who's going to bite? ;)
     
  7. Jimbo

    Jimbo Screwfix Select

    Take an FCU as a spur from the existing socket on the ring, as you suggest, 13A fuse in it, and run the 1.5mm from that. You can then add as many sockets to that as you like, but the total continuous load will be limited to 13A. Absolutely fine for what you need.
     
  8. JP.

    JP. Screwfix Select

    Just a thought..

    Does that 1.5mm spurred off the 32 Amp Ring Final and feeding 1 Single Gang socket comply?
     
  9. Jimbo

    Jimbo Screwfix Select

    there was a thread about that recently, someone said only if it was under a certain length (1m iirc)?
     
  10. JP.

    JP. Screwfix Select

    Just wondering on that Jim..don't get me wrong would never do it..but if the adiabatic was ok..

    Maybe not.
     
  11. seneca2

    seneca2 New Member

    only if it was under a certain length (1m iirc)?

    I think it was 3m.
     
  12. Mr. Handyandy

    Mr. Handyandy Screwfix Select

    there was a thread about that recently, someone said
    only if it was under a certain length (1m iirc)?

    I think it was 3m.




    I think the jist was, that smaller cable needed fusing down. Regardless of length.



    Mr. Handyandy - really
     
  13. spark&half

    spark&half Active Member

    The conductor size for a fused spur is determined from the total current demand served by that spur, which is limited to a maximum of 13a.

    When a fused spur serves a socket-outlets the minimum conductor size is:

    1.5mm2 for cables with thermosetting or thermoplastic insulated conductors,

    1mm2 for mineral insulated cables, copper conductors..


    The conductor size for circuits protected by a BS3036 fuse is determined by applying the 0.725 factor of regulation 433-02-03, that is, the current-carrying must be at least 27A for circuits A1 and 41A for cicuit A2


    I have always used 2.5mm2 tho..



    ;)
     
  14. spark&half

    spark&half Active Member

    similar Post:

    LINK


    ;)
     

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