19th Jan 2019

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Allsorts said:
Heat can even answer for NI... :rolleyes:
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Same as rest of U.K. in my opinion, - those that voted to leave would still vote to leave, plus a lot of the remainers will have decided to change their vote to leave. I know the EU hasn’t impressed everyone who voted remain.
But we wouldn’t be having any speculation on what might have been the result of a second vote, If the remain vote had won.
 
fillyboy said:
Did you not manage to buy your council house then chippie?, or if you did, why would you begrudge someone else the privilege of owning their own home?
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No problems buying your council house, not that I did, but denying future generations that hope is terrible, a bit like Brexit really, denying future generations hopes of free movement.
 
chippie244 said:
No problems buying your council house, not that I did, but denying future generations that hope is terrible, a bit like Brexit really, denying future generations hopes of free movement.
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What countries have you moved to freely over the years?
"Hopes of free movement"?
You can go almost anywhere you want in the world, but it sure ain't 'free'.
And the, EU is no exception to that rule.
 
chippie244 said:
Margret Thatcher encouraged council's to sell off their housing stock but forbade them from building new council houses, this policy has continued with successive governments and combined with property developers greed has resulted in a lack of affordable housing.
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Yep Labour never changed that either ( when they had at least ten years to do something about it)
 
longboat said:
What countries have you moved to freely over the years?
"Hopes of free movement"?
You can go almost anywhere you want in the world, but it sure ain't 'free'.
And the, EU is no exception to that rule.
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Well that's just a lie isn't it.
 
CGN said:
As you assume me to be a brexiteer, and therefore xeniohobic, then it is very easy to dismiss that there is a demand for housing, whether short or long term. I was just suggesting you could help take the strain off many councils who are housing immigrants in travel lodges.
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I do assume you to be a Leaver but not necessarily a xenophobe; that isn't an essential requirement, but clearly fits most both on here and in 'real' life.

And how you then correlate that with me assuming that there isn't a demand for housing is just silly.

And you weren't really trying to suggest anything practical about helping provide shelter for immigrants, just making a cheap point.

I now more than assume you are a Leaver.
 
I'd still like to know why chippie wants to preclude the lower classes from owning their own home?
 
joinerjohn1 said:
The most likely outcome would be shackled to a fast failing EU, joining the Euro, and having to pay our share of the mess that follows the failure of their great federal experiment.
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As straight an answer as one of the Brexiteer's over-curved bananas.
 
chippie244 said:
Margret Thatcher encouraged council's to sell off their housing stock but forbade them from building new council houses, this policy has continued with successive governments and combined with property developers greed has resulted in a lack of affordable housing.
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I'm well aware of that Chippie, so why not offer up spare rooms to immigrants...everyone doing their bit to help.
 
chippie244 said:
No problems buying your council house, not that I did, but denying future generations that hope is terrible.
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Are you saying the extra 6.5 million people now in this country haven’t affected housing in some way either ? Are these extra people not denying out future generations that same hope ?
 
longboat said:
You dont have a valid link then?
OK. That's fine, I didn't for one moment expect you had. I do. I didn't just make it up, you know.

"The most likely outcome of a second referendum"?
In all honesty I think remain would win, correct given the PROJECT FEAR MK 6.0, or whatever the tally is now. Oh, that ol' chestnut? What the vast majority of financial experts, political commentators, business leaders, service providers, politicians and car manufacturers say? That's 'project fear'? Hmm, not even you really believe that Longs. But call it what you want - it's the cheapest of cheap shots. Here's a cheaper one - anyone who shouts 'project fear' is an ignoramus. Hang on - mine is true.

The longterm consequences however, I think would be far more damaging to a supposed democratic, sovereign nation in that, large swathed of the population would fail to see the point in voting for anything ever again. Yes, it wouldn't be an easy outcome - there would be lots of fallout to be sure.

Just as the, EU like it.
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joinerjohn1 said:
Tell ya what DA, I’ve just returned from Tenerife, where many shopping malls have been built using EU money ( they are proud to point this out on the billboards outside) Trouble is, some of them have been built in the middle of nowhere. One, Parque Santiago 6, has some great shops, but very few customers. So few, that many retailers are considering moving into Playas Las Americas to pay more rent for similar sq footage, because they’re losing money due to the lack of footfall where they are at the moment. Within 5 or so years this retail complex will be empty and disused. ( no guesses who’s paid for it though ( and no it’s not the locals either))
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That's better than you going on about bananas I guess.

But, seriously JJ, as soon as you say 'ya', I know we're in for a profoundly silly 'point'.
 
longboat said:
I agree with that too, jj.
I've 'liked' it to see if the europhile pathetically takes the bait again.
Bless, he thinks he has a point when commenting on who's liked a post rather than the post itself. Awwww.
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Any chance of growing up and acting like an adult?
 
chippie244 said:
So are we in agreement that lack of affordable housing is caused by government?
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Hmmmm?, there is far more 'social housing' now than there was in Maggies day, far more. OK, it's not owned by the council, still paid for by the council though isn't it?
Why blame the Tories, the last Tory government built more council houses than the previous labour government, did you know that?
As for affordable housing, have houses ever been affordable?, when I first bought forty years ago it couldn't be done on a single wage and interest rates were nudging double figures.
 
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