20 year old Crabtree starbreaker failed eicr

Discussion in 'Electricians' Talk' started by Aaaaandy, Jun 16, 2021.

  1. Aaaaandy

    Aaaaandy New Member

    Hi

    20 year old starbreaker in a let 2 bed maisonette.

    Electrician failed it on the mains switch not being an RCD.

    He has told me that the cheapest he can find one is £160 on eBay so I may as well have a new fuse box as it will come with 6k mcbs rather than the 10k mcbs I have now. Also it should be split load.

    Am I having my pants pulled down?

    Thanks for looking
     

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  2. ElecCEng

    ElecCEng Screwfix Select

    You’d be better off using RCBOs. About ~30 for Starbreaker. How many circuits?
     
  3. Aaaaandy

    Aaaaandy New Member

    Thanks for the reply.

    Photo attached.
     

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  4. Aaaaandy

    Aaaaandy New Member

    Will they fit the 20 year old fuse box? Google has given me yes and no answers!
     
  5. Sparkielev

    Sparkielev Screwfix Select

    Wylex main switch DB with 7 rcbo's around £500 fitted, Crabtree starbreaker rcbo's should fit that DB around £30 each,
    Lewden a cheaper brand DB and rcbo's around ££350 -£400 fitted
     
  6. The Happy Builder

    The Happy Builder Screwfix Select

    Probably, you need to confirm it with the manufacturer.

    It’s time for an upgrade.
     
  7. Aaaaandy

    Aaaaandy New Member

    So £385+vat for both a new fuse box and EICR is a fair price ...and a necessary job?
     
  8. ElecCEng

    ElecCEng Screwfix Select

    Is it 2 consumer units? Photos show two different boards
     
  9. Ind spark

    Ind spark Active Member

    Why did you have it tested in the first place?
     
  10. Tony Goddard

    Tony Goddard Screwfix Select

    Price he has quoted is fair enough, but if you are tight on cash you can just have an RCD, in a separate box, put on the front end.
    I have done this today for a cash strapped customer, £80 all in, the down side is that if one thing has a fault you loose the lot.

    You could try The Fuse Company, they stock a lot of obsolete breakers

    Ind raises a good question, if it's a letting or something else that requires an inspection (thatched for insurance, hotel etc) then it needs doing, if its your private house, its up to you!
     
  11. Aaaaandy

    Aaaaandy New Member

    First photo was my switch...I thought I had the same board. Second photo is the board in question
     
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  12. Aaaaandy

    Aaaaandy New Member

    Aiming to let it.
     
  13. Tony Goddard

    Tony Goddard Screwfix Select

    There are a lot of Starbreaker RCDs on ebay, a lot of them for under £20?
     
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    Tony Goddard Screwfix Select

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  16. Tony Goddard

    Tony Goddard Screwfix Select

    And Rexel (Newey & Eyre) stock the 80/30 and 100/30, no prices shown though
     
  17. Tony Goddard

    Tony Goddard Screwfix Select

    Worth noting that the most expensive Starbreaker RCD on ebay is £58.00 (and it's not the one you want) and the most expensive sold was about £30 since April, make of that what you will.
     
  18. Ind spark

    Ind spark Active Member

    Agreed if it's your own house and no rcd protection is the only issue just get an rcd socket fitted outside so you can mow the lawn safely.
     
  19. Bazza

    Bazza Screwfix Select

    @Aaaaandy has he given you a code of any sort for the consumer unit not being made of a non-combustible material.??
    That one is plastic which does not meet the latest regs.
    You could pay a hundred quid for an upfront RCD, only for the board to get a bad report next time round.
    maybe it’s time to bite the bullet and get an up to date jobby.
     
  20. The Happy Builder

    The Happy Builder Screwfix Select

    Some years ago I replaced a Crabtree consumer unit because someone had fitted a replacement split load RCD and the busbars melted, because they are not all backwards compatible.

    You need to be careful about what you do to “upgrade” this consumer unit, in all honesty you will probably be better off replacing it.
     

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