Adding plug onto electric oven?

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ben100

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Just bought an electric oven but came without a plug so I am adding a plug on, it’s a 13amp fuse in the plug, is it ok to use that fuse or do I need to put in a smaller one. The oven specifications say it is 13amp.
 
Refuse to Bend said:
I would have thought if it were suitable for a 13A plug top it would be fitted with one.
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How would you fit a plug top to an oven? A complete plug is possible though.

ben100 said:
Just bought an electric oven but came without a plug so I am adding a plug on, it’s a 13amp fuse in the plug, is it ok to use that fuse or do I need to put in a smaller one. The oven specifications say it is 13amp.
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If the oven specifications say 13 amp why on earth do you think a smaller fuse would be suitable or even last?
 
Wellwisher said:
How would you fit a plug top to an oven? A complete plug is possible though.



If the oven specifications say 13 amp why on earth do you think a smaller fuse would be suitable or even last?
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I said the smaller fuse as when I have previously added a plug onto a kitchen extractor hood I was told to put in a smaller fuse. It's fine now anyway the oven is in.
 
ben100 said:
I said the smaller fuse as when I have previously added a plug onto a kitchen extractor hood I was told to put in a smaller fuse. It's fine now anyway the oven is in.
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Have a quick look at the oven instructions. It might well say it needs a 13 amp fuse, but if it is supplied without a plug it might have to be hardwired ie not plugged in to a socket.
 
ben100 said:
I said the smaller fuse as when I have previously added a plug onto a kitchen extractor hood I was told to put in a smaller fuse. It's fine now anyway the oven is in.
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For your information you were probably told wrong. The fuse in a UK plug is to protect the cable not the appliance on the end of it which should be internally protected. That is why fuses are not used in plugs in other countries. No cables are used in the UK which are so small that they need protection by a smaller fuse than 13 amps.
 
Wellwisher said:
That is why fuses are not used in plugs in other countries.
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How jingoistic!

The United Kingdom's Type G plug, also known as the BS 1363 plug, is used in over 50 countries worldwide. These countries often have close historical ties to the British Empire, such as:
Ireland, Hong Kong, Malaysia, Singapore, Cyprus, Malta, Gibraltar, Jordan, and Saudi Arabia.
 
Coloumb said:
How jingoistic!

The United Kingdom's Type G plug, also known as the BS 1363 plug, is used in over 50 countries worldwide. These countries often have close historical ties to the British Empire, such as:
Ireland, Hong Kong, Malaysia, Singapore, Cyprus, Malta, Gibraltar, Jordan, and Saudi Arabia.
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And, to add, in places such as India and South Africa which use the older round pin that was common in the UK, there are now fused variants available. They also make shuttered sockets to improve safety.
 
FlyByNight said:
And, to add, in places such as India and South Africa which use the older round pin that was common in the UK, there are now fused variants available. They also make shuttered sockets to improve safety.
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The most laughable thing is that for someone who's favorite past time is being the most pedantic member of the forum can't even be bothered to fact check his own statements.
 
Coloumb said:
How jingoistic!

The United Kingdom's Type G plug, also known as the BS 1363 plug, is used in over 50 countries worldwide. These countries often have close historical ties to the British Empire, such as:
Ireland, Hong Kong, Malaysia, Singapore, Cyprus, Malta, Gibraltar, Jordan, and Saudi Arabia.
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I am aware of that. Read my post again. I did not say "all" other countries.
FlyByNight said:
And, to add, in places such as India and South Africa which use the older round pin that was common in the UK, there are now fused variants available. They also make shuttered sockets to improve safety.
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Never been to SA, but I know they are phasing out BS 546 connectors in favour of unfused IEC 60916-1.

Never seen a fused plug in India and shuttered sockets are as so rare I have not seen one.
 
Wellwisher said:
I am aware of that. Read my post again. I did not say "all" other countries.
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What's the difference between

That is why fuses are not used in plugs in other countries.

and

That is why fuses are not used in plugs in all other countries.

Absolutely nothing at all. You are even contradicting your self such is your level of pedantry.




 
@ben100 please tell us the make and model of the new oven. We can then tell you if it is suitable for use with a plug, or not.
 
koolpc said:
I always believed that a cooker that comes with just the wire and no plug has to be hard wired?
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Most electric ovens are comfortably under 13 amps and can be plugged into a wall-socket but often don't come with a plug because they will most likely be wired into a cooker isolator.
Electric hobs on the other hand can be rated at up to 2k and usually need to be wired to an isolator.

At some point they stopped supplying cables with all-in-one oven and hob combo's to stop people putting a 3-pin plug on them - not sure if that is still the case though.
 
furious_customer said:
Most electric ovens are comfortably under 13 amps and can be plugged into a wall-socket but often don't come with a plug because they will most likely be wired into a cooker isolator.
Electric hobs on the other hand can be rated at up to 2k and usually need to be wired to an isolator.

At some point they stopped supplying cables with all-in-one oven and hob combo's to stop people putting a 3-pin plug on them - not sure if that is still the case though.
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That's not quite right. Most ovens are under 13 amp but a lot of them must be hardwired according to manufacturers instructions. The ones that come with a plug can definitely be plugged in. The ones that don't generally have to be hardwired.

Plus I think most hobs are greater than 2k (I assume that's 2Kw) That works out at about 8.5 amps.
 
How would the oven know if it's on a plug or wired in? I thought it was just about the number of watts/amps consumed by the appliance?
Self-cleaning and rapid-heat models can consume more power and push the consumption above 3k and therefore need to be wired in.
 
furious_customer said:
Most electric ovens are comfortably under 13 amps and can be plugged into a wall-socket but often don't come with a plug because they will most likely be wired into a cooker isolator. . .
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Some ovens are under 13A, but if the manufacturer does not fit a 13A plug before sale, they should be hard-wired.

. . . Electric hobs on the other hand can be rated at up to 2k and usually need to be wired to an isolator. . .
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Electric hobs can be rated up to 7kW.
 
furious_customer said:
How would the oven know if it's on a plug or wired in? I thought it was just about the number of watts/amps consumed by the appliance?
Self-cleaning and rapid-heat models can consume more power and push the consumption above 3k and therefore need to be wired in.
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Good point. The oven doesn't know if it's plugged in or hardwired. But if it's plugged in, ignoring manufacturers instructions should they recommend otherwise, the owner will know. That unmistakable burning smell will inform them.

Have a little search for electric ovens. I imagine most will require hardwiring.
 
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