Advice needed re heat retention issues in an extension

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  1. Anita Coombes

    Anita Coombes New Member

    Hi

    I hope someone might be able to advise or give pointers on what I could/ should do regarding a building issue. I moved into my house 5 years ago, it is a 1960‘s building that had a two storey extension added back in 1996.The extension was a garage and utility room with a large bedroom and en-suite above it. There is no loft space I.e the bedroom has very high ceilings (roughly 3 ish meters) with velux windows. The windows needed replacing and I did this roughly 4 years ago.

    The issue that I have noticed each year is that in the bedroom appears to be unable to retain heat in winter and in the summer it gets super hot (even with 4 windows wide open). It leads me to think that there is an issue with the insulation….?

    I would love to resolve the issue or at least reduce it…. Can anything be done? (Apologies if this is a daft question, which is a possibility due to my ignorance regarding building matters).
     
  2. Severntrent

    Severntrent Screwfix Select

    If it cannot retain the heat it would suggest lack of insulation or to high an expectation (and perhaps lack of heat input) 1996 spec?, Velux windows allow the summer sun to beat straight in and give the greenhouse effect (as per conservatories) Re the summer heat put blinds on the velux (anti heat). Unless you actually know what insulation is there its hard to suggest a way forward other than overboarding the ceiling with Kingspan (thickness??) but then there is the extra load issue to consider and other construction issues
     
  3. quasar9

    quasar9 Screwfix Select

    You say it was a garage before. Was it demolished down to foundations and rebuilt or was it converted for habitation? What kind of roof does it have ? Flat or sloping. It may not have a loft but does it have a hatch ? Finally, did your solicitor supply any paperwork from building control ?
     
  4. MikeByfield

    MikeByfield Active Member

    If the extension was built in 1996 there probably isn’t any insulation anywhere.

    If you want to address it properly it needs a thorough overhaul which really means re building the inside.
     
  5. stevie22

    stevie22 Screwfix Select

    You will have insulation if done properly to standards extant in 1996 but rather less than current requirements.

    You need to investigate. but high ceiling won't help the cause
     
  6. Anita Coombes

    Anita Coombes New Member

    It appears that the original garage was demolished and the extension was built on new foundations. It has a sloping roof with no hatch- the ceiling of the room follows the contours of the roof with a depth of about 30 cm (that is the thickness that I can see where the velux windows are. Yes we received the paperwork and it was all signed off correctly.
     
  7. quasar9

    quasar9 Screwfix Select

    Insulation standards were first created in 1965 and subsequently amended in 1976, 1985, 1990, 1995, 2002, 2006 and the latest in 2013. That means it will have some but not to the latest standards. To give you a gauge, current standards require 10x the insulation required in 1965.

    your insulation may have been poorly installed or possibly damaged by ingress of damp etc.

    Standard and quickest solution is to view the heat loss via a thermal camera to understand the areas with high loss. You can hire these from tool hire shops. Once surveyed an action plan can be created.

    It’s best to do this now with heating still on and days still cold.
     
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  8. Anita Coombes

    Anita Coombes New Member

    Thank you, we will hire one and see what is happening. My husband seems to be of the opinion that most of the cold is coming from the wall (it is “free standing” in the sense that it is an outer wall completely exposed to the elements.

    Once we have a clearer idea we can set about finding a solution. Thank you again for the guidance
     
  9. MikeByfield

    MikeByfield Active Member

    I can save you the bother, I've got a thermal imaging camera and I do insulation all day long.

    You've got hardly any, and what you have got is badly installed, because no one cared about it when it was done.

    So you need to move on from that which pragmatically means taking it apart, re building the cold roof with insulation between the rafters dealing with ventilation and then going over it again because you can't get enough between the rafters and you also need to deal with the thermal bridge the rafters create.

    Then you need to look at the walls and floor.

    If you want to deal with it properly then its expensive, and 90% of people don't do it when they realise how expensive it is so you might want to thing about what your budget is and make a decision about just living with it vs taking the project on.
     
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