Average speed cameras - Hmmm....

Discussion in 'Just Talk' started by WillyEckerslike, Oct 14, 2019.

  1. kitfit1

    kitfit1 Screwfix Select

    I must admit, like most of us i have been caught for speeding a few times over the last 45 years of driving both cars and motorbikes. Because of work i drive my van the most though, since having my current Vivaro Bi-Turbo i have never come anywhere near to being caught speeding. The reason ? simply because the van has a variable speed limiter. As i move from one speed limit to the next, i just set the speed limiter to the current limit. Why on earth modern cars aren't fitted with variable speed limiters is anyone's guess because it saves all the hassle of constantly watching the speedo, leaving the driver to actually look at the road. The van has cruise control as well, but is of no use because off course as soon as you brake or accelerate the cruise control switches off.
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  2. WillyEckerslike

    WillyEckerslike Screwfix Select

    I have an audible variable speed limiter. She's not always in the vehicle with me though...
  3. kitfit1

    kitfit1 Screwfix Select

    I used to have one of those as well............................but she went missing in 2010 :D
  4. Mosaix

    Mosaix Active Member

    A word of warning, guys. Here in Shropshire they've started deploying mobile speed cameras from motorbikes.

    The one I saw had the motorbike hidden behind a hedge and the camera on top of a tripod. Very difficult to spot. Looked like a photographer taking a few shots.
  5. b4xtr

    b4xtr Active Member

    Was one of those that caught me, been using motorbikes around this area for many years, as you say, difficult to spot
  6. Tangoman

    Tangoman Well-Known Member

    Waze is quite good for notifications of speed camera placements, including mobile placements - obviously it relies on someone else reporting the camera.
  7. gadget man

    gadget man Screwfix Select

    I did the 'Speed-aware' course today, the most boring, brain-numbing 4 hours of my life....:(
  8. FlyByNight

    FlyByNight Screwfix Select

    That is what I have heard. I understand that part of the logic is to totally inconvenience you and waste a day of your time including travel abd that is how they get the message home
  9. b4xtr

    b4xtr Active Member

    Still Better than points though, when i was caught it was for over 20mph in a 20 zone and the course was the other side of the city from me - more inconvenient than if it was over 30mph as there were courses much nearer
  10. WillyEckerslike

    WillyEckerslike Screwfix Select

    You could achieve that by reading some of the replies from a few regulars on this forum...
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  11. Mosaix

    Mosaix Active Member

    I suppose it depends on who runs the course. Mine was in Telford (can't remember the organisation) and I thought it was great.
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  12. gadget man

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    That's the impression I got- when the 4 hours was nearly up they seemed to struggle to stretch it out.
  13. gadget man

    gadget man Screwfix Select

    Fortunately I live only a couple of miles from where the course was held so no great pain there.
  14. steedoc

    steedoc New Member

    This kind of technocratic enforcement should be resisted, drivers should have the agency to select the correct speed for the conditions. Under this logic every car should have a tracker imposing automatic fines whenever a speed limit breach occur - and your personal drone follows you to check you're not breaking any laws.
  15. Astramax

    Astramax Super Member

    This thread is so old now....cars don't exist!
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  16. Cris 11

    Cris 11 Active Member

    My friend got nicked for 75 in a 70 so not sure about the allowances previously described.
    He went on the course to avoid the points but after getting up late he had to speed to get to it on time.
  17. Abbadon2001

    Abbadon2001 Screwfix Select

    Is this accurate - there are no road markings to make an accurate calibrated measurement for a spot speed measurement in these areas to my knowledge?
  18. quasar9

    quasar9 Screwfix Select

    It appears that Road markings are no longer necessary for spot check cameras. I first noted these on the M23, hidden away on side of the road on an inconspicuous pole. Practically invisible it gave its position away when it flashed a number of cars on the opposite carriageway. On the way back I noted there were no road marking and there were a few more between london and Gatwick. There are also cameras that look like routers with two antennae dotted round perimeter road at Heathrow
  19. Alan22

    Alan22 Screwfix Select

    I'm fine with speed restrictions if I know what speed I'm meant to be doing, but why do speed restriction zones not just tell you? I went to York, got a ticket, had to sit through one of those awareness courses, still don't know what speed I was meant to be doing, is it too much to expect a sign with a number on it?
  20. Mark DM

    Mark DM Well-Known Member

    Appreciate this is an old post but as its been resurrected I've wondered this for a long time with regards to average speed cameras......as they read registration numbers, can they differentiate between vehicle types as large vans for example I believe are restricted to 50mph compared to cars able to travel at 60mph. Would a large van doing 60mph be picked up as speeding in an average limit of 60mph. Same question would apply to any speed enforcement camera.

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