Why does everyone pull B+D apart? Theres nothing wrong with em.I have both the 18v combi and a 710w corded.Both are totally reliable and good to use.The corded was only £32 from Homebase,and does exactly the same as a £100 Bosch. Also why doesnt screwfix stock any of these products? Who the hell wants to pay 100s of squids for overpriced tools that dont do any more than the cheaper ones?
I dont see why not.Ive hammered the corded drilling through steel all day and it hasnt flinched. My advice to you tradesmen is,save yourself a wad and give Homebase's finest a go! De-Walt? Piffle.
i use impact drivers and b+d dont make one,24v spit hammer with 3ah and b+d dont make one of them either,makita chop off saw and b+d dont make one,i rest my case
Also unless i am wrong i dont recall ever seeing any 110v black and decker, so you wouldnt even get em out of ya van on any commercial sites.
Guys, Your no longer restricted to 110v on site work anymore. 230vis ok as it has to be rcd protected. Allows our european friends to bring there tools over & work. Secondly, I thought Dewalt made Cr@p & decker. In my opinion there as bad as each other.
As a DIYer I like most others went for B&D and the occasional cheap Challenge stuff. Over the years I've upgraded to dewalt, maily because the 18v B&D batteries fitted so it was an easy and steady migration. The DW stuff is much more powerful and heavier generally but the B&D stuff is fine for DIY, TBH. The only thing I wouldn't compromise on is the DW jigsaw, it is simply fantastic.
De-Walt? Piffle. I thought De Walt were the same company as B and D? (or so the "man in the shop" told me! PTP
yep, similar relationship to Audi & Skoda or any number of other brands divided by target sector. Nobody ever moans that Bosch make green & blue tools?
IN MY OPINION MAKITA AND BOSCH ARE THE BEST OUT THERE. WHAT I WILL SAY IS ITS WHAT TOUR USING IT FOR MYSELF I DO ALOT OF DRY LINNING AND THE MAKITS AUTOFEED IS THE TOPS, ALSO LETS NOT FORGET ABOUT HILTI THERE IN A LEAUGUE OF THERE OWN AND YOU WOULD NEVER GET A B+D TO DO THE WORK A HILTI DOES. ANYWAYS STICK TO DIY MATE AS REAL TRADES USE REAL TOOLS.
sooperman Posts: 54 Registered: Jan 22, 2006 Re: Black + Decker critics Posted: Feb 2, 2009 11:01 AM Reply IN MY OPINION MAKITA AND BOSCH ARE THE BEST OUT THERE. WHAT I WILL SAY IS ITS WHAT TOUR USING IT FOR MYSELF I DO ALOT OF DRY LINNING AND THE MAKITS AUTOFEED IS THE TOPS, ALSO LETS NOT FORGET ABOUT HILTI THERE IN A LEAUGUE OF THERE OWN AND YOU WOULD NEVER GET A B+D TO DO THE WORK A HILTI DOES. ANYWAYS STICK TO DIY MATE AS REAL TRADES USE REAL TOOLS. ooooooooh get you
B + D are fine for the DIYer, when i moved into the trade i had an old B+D 18v drill, it as fine when i was doing DIY but i ruined it in a week with onsite work, upgraded to two dewalt 14v and a 18 makita. the dewalt are far superior to the makita no matter what u say! have also used hilti which are a cut above the rest altho to expensive really (things go missing on some sites) and can e heavy if you dont go for the li-ion batterys
B+D don't do the tools that the trade needs, well not under the B+D name anyway. I use Dewalt and Makita, and have a Hitachi li ion drill. I have a 36v dewalt set, only because I managed to get the 36v set, SDS drill, reciprocating saw, circular saw and the torch, £500 plus vat. TBH I wouldn't have bought it for the normal price, I couldn't have justified the expense when I had a good 24v sds and a makita saw.
Trade quality tools for trade work all the way... Except....if your drilling old pre-cast concrete panels of the type used in 1960's pre-fabs I swear by a cheap Challenge sds drill cos they have no guts and dont blow huge shells out of the back of the panel like my dewalt does....I dont use it often but it is handy at times.
Same is true for soft slate. The SDs just pulverises it, whereas a cheap percussion drill or just a normal non hammer drill will just cut through it.
that is very true, often the beta sds drills blow out the old prefab walls but if you have one with a variable speed trigger only use a slow speed and this will mean it shouldnt blow out as much
I have just stopped using an old B and D for mixing adhesive and plaster. When I say old, I mean really old. It is 1970s era. the only reason I stopped using it is because it is a twin speed with no variable speed and the mixing paddle shakes the chuck to bits, and the paddle falls out! I rebuilt it using a motor/body from a single speed and the gearbox from the twin speed, so it says it's single speed but then has the twin speed box on the front. As much as I love it I fear it's going to have to go, as it's now sitting in a corner unloved.
strange how we all have a old b and d in the shed, but did you know they were only designed to last 8 hours of use