BREXIT, Who Is Laughing Now?

scott belton said:
The electorate voted to leave the European Union, Not MP's who aren't not true representation of the British public due to our undemocractic electoral system, so why should these people be allowed input into such decisions when the majority of them have a completely different agenda than the people they represent. The feeling at the moment even commented on by the guardian is that the elite will do anything to get there way and this I'm sure will cause mass protests and anger if brexit is watered down. If Mr May is to show her strength she should call a general election and the torys can decimate labour, and also giving the chance UKIP to gain the seats it deserves Rather than the disproportionate representation it has
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Most of the electorate - you included - hadn't a scooby about what they were actually doing. The actual implications of their desire to leave.

They wanted to give the finger to the 'establishment' and convinced themselves - with the help of the likes of Farage, tho' it took little effort - that 'Leaving' was a cure-all. Completely missing the fact that Farage is the epitome of the 'establishment' - a high-earning banker who doesn't give a stuff about the proles and is actively desiring a privatised NHS. For starters...

He just knew what strings to pull for the mindless masses to jump to his tune and give him what he wanted. (And then he went to the US to help Trump do the same).

You should have a bead of sweat forming on your temples at this stage at how utterly gullible you've been. What a clown.

You will deny this, of course - but it's as clear as a clear thing.

Don't even pretend that you or the characters in the Question Time audience or most of the Leavers in this country and virtually all of the Leavers on this forum have a bludy clue what this is all about.

Noty a smattering of an iota.
 
joinerjohn1 said:
Yes, the NHS worker who hoped that Brexiter's children get ill and need Great Ormond St Hospital was really spooky (or did ya miss that bit?) ( and were the Remainers on the panel too polite to point out that she was well out of order too? )
. Did you forget that little bit of nonsense by her, accidentally, or did you just watch what the Brexiters were saying?
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Nope, saw that too, JJ.
 
joinerjohn1 said:
Yes, the NHS worker who hoped that Brexiter's children get ill and need Great Ormond St Hospital was really spooky (or did ya miss that bit?) ( and were the Remainers on the panel too polite to point out that she was well out of order too? )
. Did you forget that little bit of nonsense by her, accidentally, or did you just watch what the Brexiters were saying?
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Beat me to it.

 
Jackoftrades said:
Since when was the judgement about joining, leaving or staying in europe.

It was a judgement of law, nothing to do with the benefits or disadvantages of membership.

I didnt like the result of their judgement, or its implications, but i respect that its about law that has to be followed.

and yes, sometimes the law is an ***!

Who said that? answer without the help of google if you are able to
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Mr Bumble the Beadle in Oliver Twist.
 
The lack of knowledge about the difference between the crown, the legistature and the judiciary and the checks and balances between them explains why a lot of thickos voted brexit. :):)
 
chippie244 said:
The lack of knowledge about the difference between the crown, the legistature and the judiciary and the checks and balances between them explains why a lot of thickos voted brexit. :):)
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Bit harsh that. EU is cesspit that needs a damn good clean! ;)
 
My comment was nothing to do with the EU per se, it was about the British constitution and the ignorance about it from people who get their information from the right wing press which is totally owned by offshore based companies or owners and who have their own agendas.
 
chippie244 said:
My comment was nothing to do with the EU per se, it was about the British constitution and the ignorance about it from people who get their information from the right wing press which is totally owned by offshore based companies or owners and who have their own agendas.
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Oh, ok.
 
Devil's Advocate said:
Anyone see Question Time last night?

A couple of rabid Leavers in the audience - with some spooky things in common; lack of reasoning, a near-apoplectic demand to TRIGGER ARTICLE 50 NOW! and this incredible delusion that that's all it needs to cure our country's ills.

Even the Remainers on the panel were too polite to point out that for our country to act on the will of fruit cases was not a good example of democracy.
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Ha, ya couldn't make it up!

Oh hang on, you just did.
 
Devil's Advocate said:
Most of the electorate - you included - hadn't a scooby about what they were actually doing. The actual implications of their desire to leave.

They wanted to give the finger to the 'establishment' and convinced themselves - with the help of the likes of Farage, tho' it took little effort - that 'Leaving' was a cure-all. Completely missing the fact that Farage is the epitome of the 'establishment' - a high-earning banker who doesn't give a stuff about the proles and is actively desiring a privatised NHS. For starters...

He just knew what strings to pull for the mindless masses to jump to his tune and give him what he wanted. (And then he went to the US to help Trump do the same).

You should have a bead of sweat forming on your temples at this stage at how utterly gullible you've been. What a clown.

You will deny this, of course - but it's as clear as a clear thing.

Don't even pretend that you or the characters in the Question Time audience or most of the Leavers in this country and virtually all of the Leavers on this forum have a bludy clue what this is all about.

Noty a smattering of an iota.
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Howay, da, you know as well as I do that a 'one size fit's all' approach towards an entire continent as diverse and culturally distinct as Europe, was never going to be an easy ride.
People looked at Farage and saw an advocate, a chance that maybe now, through him, their concerns about the way the EU's continuously growing influence over how this country is governed could be heard.

I thought, GB was the fairest, most dignified and well respected nation on the planet, your words, by the way.
What's changed? A few ridiculous headlines, writ large on the covers of even more ridiculous media rags.

We've got a number, a good indication that shows exactly how many people are prepared to vote to leave the EU. The biggest turn out 'ever' in this country, for any election or national vote.

These views, opinions and feeling were always there, but putting a number on it hasn't changed the country in any way.

We haven't lost our 'soul' we've merely had a damn good shot at preserving it.
 
chippie244 said:
The lack of knowledge about the difference between the crown, the legistature and the judiciary and the checks and balances between them explains why a lot of thickos voted brexit. :):)
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No, chips, because the 'thickos' voted, you have now learned a lesson, as have they.
 
longboat said:
Howay, da, you know as well as I do that a 'one size fit's all' approach towards an entire continent as diverse and culturally distinct as Europe, was never going to be an easy ride.
People looked at Farage and saw an advocate, a chance that maybe now, through him, their concerns about the way the EU's continuously growing influence over how this country is governed could be heard.

I thought, GB was the fairest, most dignified and well respected nation on the planet, your words, by the way.
What's changed? A few ridiculous headlines, writ large on the covers of even more ridiculous media rags.

We've got a number, a good indication that shows exactly how many people are prepared to vote to leave the EU. The biggest turn out 'ever' in this country, for any election or national vote.

These views, opinions and feeling were always there, but putting a number on it hasn't changed the country in any way.

We haven't lost our 'soul' we've merely had a damn good shot at preserving it.
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I couldn't disagree more.

Yes, that is what people saw in Farage. But it's not even Farage's agenda - he is pure far right wing, and this anti-EU thing is just one part of his anti-anything that isn't middle-class, low tax, low benefit, privatised 'English' thing. Give free reign to those who already have it, and stuff those who are struggling at the bottom.

He does not truly speak for the people he tricked into voting his way.

Does Farage speak for you, Longs? Does Trump speak to your heart?

In both cases I understand why many people are attracted by what they say, but it doesn't paint these people in a very good light.

Forgive them - they do not understand what they are doing.
 
We've all heard huffily-said remarks like "Well, I hope your child doesn't ever need their help!" when something like the ambulance or fire service is being cut back by a council. What the person really means is "You complete bar-steward for voting to cut our services - I hope you're the next one who needs it - and suffers because of it!"

Perhaps this woman was being a tad too honest about what she felt... :oops:
 
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